Comments Thread For: Gennady Golovkin - Three Trainers Break Down How To Beat Him!

[nacho daddy]

True. Just like Canelo would of probably beat GGG at 155.

To be fair Ward didn't drain him. His big mouth drained him. Dawson's own trainer even admitted that. Just like I don't blame Floyd when Canelo opened his big mouth and said 152 FIRST. Mean what you say, say what you mean...

"KELLERMAN: You are now once again the light heavyweight champion of the world. You've gotten rid of all the old fighters in the division but there's some new interesting young fighters here. Any interest you in particular?
DAWSON: I mean I would love a fight with Andre Ward. I mean I think that would make for a great fight.
KELLERMAN: Super middleweight champion.
DAWSON: Super middleweight champion. I could make 168 or we could do it at 175 —a catch weight— it don't matter to me. I wanna make my statement known. I want everybody to know who I am. I wanna go after the big dogs.
It's beyond foolish for Dawson to try to blame someone else for his problems with weight, when he repeatedly said publicly that he would have no issues making 168 pounds."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...184031903.html

dawson did it for the money he knew he was drained and would be useless. money will make people do anything to get it

[Eastcoast]

I think Lara's diminished as a fighter based on how he looked vs Martirosyn. Lara only fighting 2x a year vs low level of competition, in combination with his age may have lead to a slippage in his athletic reflexes.

Charlo and Eubank might prove to be great tests. Derevyanchenko as well.

[soul_survivor]

but brook was bigger then GGG in the ring that fight. he did it for the money and cashed out just before the bombardment got serious

I dunno how true that is but even if he rehydrated more, that doesn't mean he was the more natural middleweight. It just means he took on board more water over the period between weigh in and fight time. GGG is the naturally more muscular, more betterb uilt middleweight. Thats just how it is.

[soul_survivor]

True. Just like Canelo would of probably beat GGG at 155.

To be fair Ward didn't drain him. His big mouth drained him. Dawson's own trainer even admitted that. Just like I don't blame Floyd when Canelo opened his big mouth and said 152 FIRST. Mean what you say, say what you mean...

"KELLERMAN: You are now once again the light heavyweight champion of the world. You've gotten rid of all the old fighters in the division but there's some new interesting young fighters here. Any interest you in particular?
DAWSON: I mean I would love a fight with Andre Ward. I mean I think that would make for a great fight.
KELLERMAN: Super middleweight champion.
DAWSON: Super middleweight champion. I could make 168 or we could do it at 175 —a catch weight— it don't matter to me. I wanna make my statement known. I want everybody to know who I am. I wanna go after the big dogs.
It's beyond foolish for Dawson to try to blame someone else for his problems with weight, when he repeatedly said publicly that he would have no issues making 168 pounds."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing...184031903.html

Is that true though?

I don't want to derail the point of this thread but I'm not sure what you said is accurate. Canelo made a statement about dropping down to 150 to fight Mayweather in 2011...the fight took place in 2013. Your own eyes can see the difference in physique that Canelo had in those 2 years. He was much bigger and muscular in 2013 than in 2011.

Would his statement still apply? Especially considering what was reported in USA Today in 2013 (the year of the fight) when Canelo said quite clearly that he no longer wanted the catch weight but Mayweather (a champion already at light middle) would not fight a fellow champion unless it was at 152.

So a blank statement of "well he said it, so it happened" doesnt really hold true.

[kafkod]

all see him as beatable, yet all admit its a big ask

I agree that Jacobs, Lara, Saunders, and Canelo will all ask different questions..... all are good/very good fights

and I agree that Canelo has the best chance

Golovkin is the best middleweight

That's why it's so unfair that he wouldn't drain himself to 155 for a 160lb title fight to give Canelo a chance of beating him.

[steeve steel]

All three commentary seem spot on... till they mention that Billy Joe has a chance! Makes you doubt what was previously said. I mean... i know they're cheering for their man but... c'mon.

[Shadoww702]

Is that true though?

I don't want to derail the point of this thread but I'm not sure what you said is accurate. Canelo made a statement about dropping down to 150 to fight Mayweather in 2011...the fight took place in 2013. Your own eyes can see the difference in physique that Canelo had in those 2 years. He was much bigger and muscular in 2013 than in 2011.

Would his statement still apply? Especially considering what was reported in USA Today in 2013 (the year of the fight) when Canelo said quite clearly that he no longer wanted the catch weight but Mayweather (a champion already at light middle) would not fight a fellow champion unless it was at 152.

So a blank statement of "well he said it, so it happened" doesnt really hold true.

It's been a long time ago but I'm pretty sure Floyd kept wanting 150 and I think Floyd was about to walk or some BS and Canelo said I'll fight you at 152. And Floyd bounced on it. I'll try find links...

[Shadoww702]

Is that true though?

I don't want to derail the point of this thread but I'm not sure what you said is accurate. Canelo made a statement about dropping down to 150 to fight Mayweather in 2011...the fight took place in 2013. Your own eyes can see the difference in physique that Canelo had in those 2 years. He was much bigger and muscular in 2013 than in 2011.

Would his statement still apply? Especially considering what was reported in USA Today in 2013 (the year of the fight) when Canelo said quite clearly that he no longer wanted the catch weight but Mayweather (a champion already at light middle) would not fight a fellow champion unless it was at 152.

So a blank statement of "well he said it, so it happened" doesnt really hold true.

For what it's worth???

http://www.************.com/2013/05/...-catch-weight/

http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...ling-the-truth


It kind of makes sense though??? Floyd wanted down the middle and Canelo probably knew the fight wouldn't happen so he got another 1-2 lbs out of the deal.

Still someone mentioned earlier with Dawson...THEY do it for the $$$$.

[Shadoww702]

That's why it's so unfair that he wouldn't drain himself to 155 for a 160lb title fight to give Canelo a chance of beating him.

I don't! GGG would of most likely had a loss. That was a lose/lose deal. But again GGG's mouth saying ANYONE from 154-168 even put him in that predicament. And Ward/Canelo both bounced on it. It was a BS ****** statement to make and his bluff got called.

[Shadoww702]

I think Lara's diminished as a fighter based on how he looked vs Martirosyn. Lara only fighting 2x a year vs low level of competition, in combination with his age may have lead to a slippage in his athletic reflexes.

Charlo and Eubank might prove to be great tests. Derevyanchenko as well.

I agree. Fighting low level combination is just a glorified sparring match without gear. It does jack sht but train you for the media bs and such. To pro's it would actually be a waste of their time if it wasn't for the paycheck.