Fighters Just Aren't Seen Enough These Days

[original zero]

Waiting to get overpaid fighting Yuri Foreman type fights. It's pathetic.

154 is a dead division where the top fighters want nothing to do with each other. They'd rather fight their own individual fights. It's bad enough that there's this thing called cold war, but these people are in the same promotional umbrella. There's virtually no excuse they shouldn't be fighting.

go get some sunshine. go get laid. it's not our fault you hate life.

it's just been explained to you that these guys are about to unify.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Lara has been fighting nobodys for more than 2 years now. He fought once last year and insisted on fighting Yuri Foreman early this year. These are the kinds of fighters we have nowadays. Ask yourselves why are they not rushing to make their next fights? There are the Charlo brothers, Williams, who by now should be fine now. What do you think these people are doing?

They seem to be dwindling their primes to be honest. Jermall just had his biggest win and Williams did fight him in a risky fight. So I can't knock them just yet. Lara, though, is not impressing anybody with a Foreman win.

[LockardTheGOAT]

You have a losers mentality. Winners realize you're worth whatever you're able to negotiate.

So... You don't think there's anything wrong with someone turning down a fight even if it's because they seriously overinflate their worth? You don' think there's a such thing as having delusions about what you're actual worth is?

Trying to get as much as you can is normal, but that doesn't mean that people don't still get overpaid.

[soul_survivor]

We really need a weekly boxing show to come back that features some quality fighters in showcases. Save the tough fights for the PBC. And all of it can be free. But regular exposure needs to happen. Or some kind of YouTube channel. How can a guy get to be a star when he fights once a year?

Boxing has divas who have done nothing fighting once or twice a year...and the fans support these types of fighters and their negotiating tactics.

The best thing to do is never to pay for PPV and to stop subbing to these channels purely for the boxing. We have high quality streams across the internet these days.

Once these channels and promoters start realising no one is tuning in and none oft hese fighters are worth millions, the boxing economy will balance itself out.

[original zero]

So... You don't think there's anything wrong with someone turning down a fight even if it's because they seriously overinflate their worth? You don' think there's a such thing as having delusions about what you're actual worth is?

No, I don't think there's anything wrong with a human being deciding he doesn't want to fight another human being, regardless of what the reason is.

Of course somebody can think they're worth more than they are. If they can't get anybody to pay them what they're asking, then the market is deciding they're worth is less than what's being demanded.

But you're worth whatever you convince somebody to pay you.

[al-Xander]

Can we have an update of the list of boxers who are now considered "guest" boxers in this sport? Meaning, they fight whenever they feel like it?

Fighters who fought once last year: Jacobs, Thurman, Quillin, Porter, Broner, Bradley, Cotto, Berto, Peterson, Degale, Lara, Jermell, Andrade, Stevenson, who else?

Do you think this will be addressed this year?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Can we have an update of the list of boxers who are now considered "guest" boxers in this sport? Meaning, they fight whenever they feel like it?

Fighters who fought once last year: Jacobs, Thurman, Quillin, Porter, Broner, Bradley, Cotto, Berto, Peterson, Degale, Lara, Jermell, Andrade, Stevenson, who else?

Do you think this will be addressed this year?

No I don't and I believe Quillin didn't fight at all last year. Bradley might as well be retired I guess. Stevenson will fight Monaghan in April and then probably call it a year. Quite ridiculous.

[LockardTheGOAT]

No, I don't think there's anything wrong with a human being deciding he doesn't want to fight another human being, regardless of what the reason is.

Of course somebody can think they're worth more than they are. If they can't get anybody to pay them what they're asking, then the market is deciding they're worth is less than what's being demanded.

But you're worth whatever you convince somebody to pay you.

So in other words you DON'T believe in such a thing as overpaying (or underpaying) someone. Which just shows how little understanding you have of how the world works.

[original zero]

So in other words you DON'T believe in such a thing as overpaying (or underpaying) someone. Which just shows how little understanding you have of how the world works.

if somebody loses money, they may have paid too much. but the fighter still had to put themselves in a position to have the leverage to negotiate that amount. so their worth is whatever they convinced someone their worth was.

you're just whining for the sake of whining.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

if somebody loses money, they may have paid too much. but the fighter still had to put themselves in a position to have the leverage to negotiate that amount. so their worth is whatever they convinced someone their worth was.

you're just whining for the sake of whining.

True. The perceived worth of the fighter and the fight going into the fight is what matters based on what we know at the time. There are no guarantees of a good fight but the fighters have earned the pay day with past fights and negotiations.