Comments Thread For: Loeffler: No Reason GGG Can't Fight 6/10, Canelo in September

[Eastcoast]

oscar-hopkins wasnt a big fight, neither sold more than 1 million, cotto-canelo was a big fight with a lack of promotion from roc nation and the wrong date and didnt crack 1 million, canelo-chavez has been promoted the right way so ti was floyd-canelo, lots of tv shows, city tours, etc... and if you say the promotion starts 2-3 weeks after the chavez fight imagine if they wait to start 2-3 weeks after the jacobs fight... that will be like 4-5 weeks waisted... ggg needs to be available and closing the deal as soon as the canelo-chavez is over or else no one is going to wait for him and cotto is going to end up getting that fight, ggg gets pushed back to may 2018 and that will only benefit canelo, why risk for that??

Man, define big fight? Hopkins/Dela Hoya sold 1 million pay-per-view buys, generating $56 million. That's more than double the Hopkins/Trinidad fight. Dela Hoya/Trinidad was 1.4mill.

There's no good reason GGG can't fight in June & September. Dela Hoya's already on record saying they can't make the Golovkin/Alvarez fight until after Alvarez/Chavez, and even then he said they might do a Chavez rematch if 'fans' want it......

And if Canelo doesn't rematch Chavez, who other than Golovkin would be his September opponent? If Golovkin fights Saunders in June, Canelo's going to chose Lemieux instead? Four weeks extra promoting for a Canelo/Lemieux fight doesn't come remotely close to what the Golovkin fight would be after GGG beats BJS.

[OnePunch]

So from a business perspective why does GBP have to assume the risks associated with Trip fighting in June when Trips reasons for fighting in June are to pursue personal goals (Kazakhstan fight/unification).

I get the logic that K2 has and if they went that direction that's fine...but to maximize profit from a Trip Alvarez ppv, they will need more than 3 months of promotion plus there is the risk of injury.

the thing is there are no "risks" that golden boy is assuming. The Canelo-GGG promotion wouldnt start until mid-late June anyways, so what difference does it make? Canelo will take a few weeks off after the Chavez fight, so what are we talking about here, a difference of a week or 2? But thats somehow a dealbreaker?? Golden Boy can GTFOH with that nonsense....

[bigdunny1]

So from a business perspective why does GBP have to assume the risks associated with Trip fighting in June when Trips reasons for fighting in June are to pursue personal goals (Kazakhstan fight/unification).

I get the logic that K2 has and if they went that direction that's fine...but to maximize profit from a Trip Alvarez ppv, they will need more than 3 months of promotion plus there is the risk of injury.

Exactly. Chavez was in the same boat wanted to fight early 2016 that was his original plan. Scrapped that because Canelo is the A side and there was more money on the table for that fight. Canelo wasn't going to let Chavez fight early 2016 and wait around and risk him getting injured or upset killing the May fight. They offered the May fight and Chavez ain't a GGG level dummy he took the biggest payday he could get and you see how Canelo/Chavez is maximizing that event by having a long time to promote the fight. Plus if you wait till June what if GGG does like they did with Jacobs and screws around with negotiations. That was supposed to be easy fight both guys fought in sept neither was hurt everyone thought it was a slam dunk for the HBO date in Dec. WRONG. GGG dycked around they lost that date it got pushed all the way to March. You think Golden Boy wants to go through that in June worrying about this jokers at K2 phuking up the Sept date by dragging out negotiations? GGG could of fought in Kazakhstan or wherever ever any time over the last year if he really gave 2 phuks about that. Now he wants to do that on Canelo's time and dime? He the one begging Canelo and anyone else for a big fight now has one on the table but oh wait we got to get fight in Kazakhstan first LMAO

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Canelo fan Pissy

If the fight gets signed quickly why risk it? They had no problems holding out for the Jacobs fight yet they cant do the same for the biggest fight of their careers

Jacobs was a mandatory fight. They had no choice.

Man I really hope he gets waxed on Saturday. This premature looking beyond a opponent is down right disrespectful of Jacobs. Loffer hopefully you will be eating your words come Saturday.

Stop acting like you were not already hoping that.

Golovkin wants three to four fights a year, you can't do that unless you are looking ahead.

Get over it.

This is another example of it being amateur hour with K2.

It's the opposite. They fell for Canelo delay tactics last year.

De la Hoya is already talking Chavez rematches. K2 can't waste time when we all know Canelo has no intention on fighting Golovkin.

ggg gets pushed back to may 2018 and that will only benefit canelo, why risk for that??

Stop pretending that if Canelo wants to fight GGG it would of been signed.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Canelo Fans Pissy after all this time

Canelo has fought Khan, Smith and Chavez since he first said he was ready to fight GGG.

Now Canelo fans are acting outraged Golovkin would ignore Canelo contention about fighting September when he could bring a unification fight to his home country.

****ing Canelo, this is the only guy who repeatedly ducks a guy but then still tries to stop his fights.

****ing pathetic!

[Ake-Dawg]

the thing is there are no "risks" that golden boy is assuming. The Canelo-GGG promotion wouldnt start until mid-late June anyways, so what difference does it make? Canelo will take a few weeks off after the Chavez fight, so what are we talking about here, a difference of a week or 2? But thats somehow a dealbreaker?? Golden Boy can GTFOH with that nonsense....

No risks? And the TV promotion would start immediately after the Chavez fight with the tour starting in early June since a few weeks off after the fight is early June. There is also the injury risk which you seem to want to ignore.

My question to you is, how do you know what the impact of an additional 3-4 weeks of promotion is such that you can dismiss it as inconsequential? Logic says longer promotion equals more potential ppv buyers.

[bigdunny1]

Man, define big fight? Hopkins/Dela Hoya sold 1 million pay-per-view buys, generating $56 million. That's more than double the Hopkins/Trinidad fight. Dela Hoya/Trinidad was 1.4mill.

There's no good reason GGG can't fight in June & September. Dela Hoya's already on record saying they can't make the Golovkin/Alvarez fight until after Alvarez/Chavez, and even then he said they might do a Chavez rematch if 'fans' want it......

And if Canelo doesn't rematch Chavez, who other than Golovkin would be his September opponent? If Golovkin fights Saunders in June, Canelo's going to chose Lemieux instead? Four weeks extra promoting for a Canelo/Lemieux fight doesn't come remotely close to what the Golovkin fight would be after GGG beats BJS.

Canelo is the A side he's the biggest draw in boxing he can fight ANYONE in Sept and it will be on PPV and make more money then any lame Kazakhstan fight lol But more importantly GGG loses the fight in sept and has to wait till 2018 for the fight. You keep coming up with these scenarios like GGG is the A side calling shots there is no fight GGG can take that will give him leverage over canelo. And a paper belt over Saunders means nothing at the negotiations table. Sergio held the real crown the true middleweight champ and he already beat Chavez. How did any of that help him in negotiations with Cotto? Had to give up every demand because all that meant nothing Cotto was the PPV star and bigger draw so the fight went down on his terms or not at all.

Canelo is ONLY 26 already the biggest Star he has nothing but options literally every fighter 2 weight classes below or above Canelo wants to fight him and will do so at a fraction of cost they offered GGG. GGG is 35 with no history of PPV success and no big fight options outside of Canelo. Some how I think Canelo will be just ok if GGG ducks the Sept payday. LMAO

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Exactly. Chavez was in the same boat wanted to fight early 2016 that was his original plan. Scrapped that because Canelo is the A side and there was more money on the table for that fight. Canelo wasn't going to let Chavez fight early 2016 and wait around and risk him getting injured or upset killing the May fight. They offered the May fight and Chavez ain't a GGG level dummy he took the biggest payday he could get and you see how Canelo/Chavez is maximizing that event by having a long time to promote the fight. Plus if you wait till June what if GGG does like they did with Jacobs and screws around with negotiations. That was supposed to be easy fight both guys fought in sept neither was hurt everyone thought it was a slam dunk for the HBO date in Dec. WRONG. GGG dycked around they lost that date it got pushed all the way to March. You think Golden Boy wants to go through that in June worrying about this jokers at K2 phuking up the Sept date by dragging out negotiations? GGG could of fought in Kazakhstan or wherever ever any time over the last year if he really gave 2 phuks about that. Now he wants to do that on Canelo's time and dime? He the one begging Canelo and anyone else for a big fight now has one on the table but oh wait we got to get fight in Kazakhstan first LMAO

The Canelo/GGG fight has been promoted for more than a year.

Serious. You want to pretend Canelo hasn't ****ed around this fight for going on a second year. ****ing Canelo and his flat fee.

Your entire whiny crying ass contention is based off the idea that Canelo really wants to fights GGG.

You likely base this off of De La Hoya saying thee a contract.

But how many times has he lied. The other day he said no contract can be signed because of a possible Chavez rematch.

K2 is smart to just move ahead with grabbing the 4th title. They surely can't count on Golden Boy or Canelo being men of their words.

[Ghost Rider]

So Little G thinks if he beats Jacobs he could then fight Saunders in June and possibly hold all the Middleweight belts if he beats him. Little G already has unrealistic financial demands for a Canelo fight. Will Little G want more or less money if he adds Saunder's belt to the equation? More.

Little G pretty much wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Such a white privileged little b**ch. Thinks the whole world will just cater to his demands.

Yeah, GBP is gonna let you get the 4th belt, put Canelo's career on hold for you, give you a 50-50 split, and if the fight doesn't end up happening they'll gladly take the blame for it falling through. F**k outta here Little G.

If Little G wants to fight Saunders that's his gamble. But don't expect Canelo to just play along with your ploy of trying to get as much money as you can.

[Jubei]

Who the f.. is Canelo anyway? Dropped his belt, fled the division, lied to the public, fought total bums in the meantime.. Canelo and Fishnets can **** off. If they ever want to regain any respect or want to hold a World Title, they have to go through GGG. Fair split or no fight. Canelo has pretty much overused his A side card, GGG is now calling the shots and the GGG haters are getting nervous. Just look at bigdunny, so desperate wasting multiple hours every day from mommy's basement hating on GGG.