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  • The Akbar One
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    #51
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    Time is running out for former four division world champion Miguel Cotto (40-5, 33 KOs), who plans to retire at the end of the year but wants to have at least two fights before walking off for good. The Puerto Rican superstar has been out of the ring since November of 2015, when he lost a twelve round unanimous decision to Saul "Canelo" Alvarez at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.
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    Good, if he's not going to fight a viable welter, super welter, retire now. Who cares. He's been acting like nothing but a Diva ***** lately.

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    • -DSG-
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      #52
      Cotto-Marquez would be a great way for both guys to go out.

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      • HandsofIron
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        #53
        Marquez, Bradley or retire.

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        • Daniel_T5
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          #54
          Originally posted by HandsofIron
          Marquez, Bradley or retire.
          this...both...make it happen!!!

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            #55
            Originally posted by bigjer88
            I actually think it's part of the same conversation. I think the first Margarito fight taught Cotto that you can't trust anyone to really have your back; no one else is going to bleed for you. Then you have the Pacquiao fight which taught Cotto that you can get knocked out at the negotiating table. Put those two things together (and add a small dose of Floyd's business model) and you have post-2012 Cotto.

            Not that my opinion matters, but I've always been somewhat understanding of Cotto's diva-like tendencies. I think Cotto is an exceptionally gifted fighter, but Margarito robbed him of his prime...which is the worst thing you can do to a professional athlete. What makes it worse is that it was a criminally violent robbery in front of his family.

            If I were in Cotto's shoes, I'd probably be a bit of a d!ck too.

            Still...this is a very frustrating time to be a Cotto fan.
            Just lol @ this nonsense.

            Link proof that Margarito cheated against Cotto or STFU with your conspiracy theories and excuses. GTFOH with your assumptions and denial, "in this country" (Jack Nicholsons's Whitey Bulger voice) you need proof, otherwise, the person is innocent until proven guilty.


            Don't worry, I'll wait...

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            • bigjer88
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              #56
              Originally posted by LoadedWraps
              Just lol @ this nonsense.

              Link proof that Margarito cheated against Cotto or STFU with your conspiracy theories and excuses. GTFOH with your assumptions and denial, "in this country" (Jack Nicholsons's Whitey Bulger voice) you need proof, otherwise, the person is innocent until proven guilty.


              Don't worry, I'll wait...
              This is a boxing forum - a court of opinion shared between boxing fans, not a court of law.

              What I generally defer to on the Margarito vs. Cotto wraps conflict includes, but is not limited to: (1) the opinion of nearly every boxer and full-time boxing journalist who has publicly weighed in on the subject; (2) the amount and type of damage inflicted during the fight; and (3) the fact that Margarito was caught in his very next fight.

              I understand that this is not definitive "proof," but we are allowed to form opinions based on our observations and ability to reason, right?

              I'm really more interested in a thoughtful discussion than in winning an argument, so don't take it so personally. I argue for a living. Your "don't worry, I'll wait" is pure amateur hour.
              Last edited by bigjer88; 03-14-2017, 10:49 AM. Reason: Editing

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              • Hatesrats
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                #57
                Cotto should dig up Alfredo Angulo's corpse or the fight i'd personaly like to see Vs. Erislandy Lara. (Lara gets a pay check)
                Last edited by Hatesrats; 03-14-2017, 10:45 AM.

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                • BucaRican
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by bigjer88
                  This is a boxing forum - a court of opinion shared between boxing fans, not a court of law.

                  What I generally defer to on the Margarito vs. Cotto wraps conflict includes, but is not limited to: (1) the opinion of nearly every boxer and full-time boxing journalist who has publicly weighed in on the subject; (2) the amount and type of damage inflicted during the fight; and (3) the fact that Margarito was caught in his very next fight.

                  I understand that this is not definitive "proof," but we are allowed to form opinions based on our observations and ability to reason, right?

                  I'm really more interested in a thoughtful discussion than in winning an argument, so don't take it so personally. I argue for a living. Your "don't worry, I'll wait" is pure amateur hour.
                  (4)And the Fact that the guy never looked the same after getting caught. 3 of 3 getting slaughter in his 3 losses.

                  (5)He came nowhere near doing the same type of damage the second fight.

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                  • KillaCamNZ
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                    #59
                    RocNation can't organize a piss up in a brewery.

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                    • LoadedWraps
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bigjer88
                      This is a boxing forum - a court of opinion shared between boxing fans, not a court of law.

                      What I generally defer to on the Margarito vs. Cotto wraps conflict includes, but is not limited to: (1) the opinion of nearly every boxer and full-time boxing journalist who has publicly weighed in on the subject; (2) the amount and type of damage inflicted during the fight; and (3) the fact that Margarito was caught in his very next fight.

                      I understand that this is not definitive "proof," but we are allowed to form opinions based on our observations and ability to reason, right?

                      I'm really more interested in a thoughtful discussion than in winning an argument, so don't take it so personally. I argue for a living. Your "don't worry, I'll wait" is pure amateur hour.
                      It's actually not, and while you may form opinions based on observations and ability to reason, it's severely flawed logic to assume because something happened once (allegedly) it has happened many times. The burden of proof is on you, and just because this isn't a court of law doesn't mean you don't require proof when asked for it - you may not get thrown in jail, but your point and post go right out the window.

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