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  • djtmal
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    #171
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    fighters he defeated who held the lineal title or major world title @ 147 in their career.....Mosley, DLH, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, Berto, Cotto, Ortiz, Manny Pacquiao, Maidana (2x), ...fights with cotto and odlh happened at 154 but he also beat Robert Guerrero, Marquez there to boot.

    now compare that to anyone who fought after the early 80s...he clearly has the best resume of any champion there since Sugar Ray Leonard...that says a lot

    fighters cant pick who is in their era so you are wasting your time

    Trinidad also defended that ibf belt vs some non descipt guys and washed up former lightweights....camacho, whitaker, pendleton

    trinidad got a gift decision

    oscar, and pacquaio, give him a serious run for his "money", in terms of prime fighters that they fought and beat, but are we debating who could beat Floyd, or how many champs Floyd beat, because I could have sworn the discussion was about what style or gameplan could beat Floyd, and I swear man, I don't care what the topic of discussion is, that is all you cats harp on...an accumulation of guys who were paper champs, and guys had he fought them at the proper timeline, it would hold some real weight...

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    • daggum
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      #172
      anyone answer the question as to why floyd suddenly decided to give pac a 40 million flat offer? also bearing in mind their last fights did exactly the same numbers? floyd vs ortiz did 1.25 million buys and so did pac-marquez 3. pac agrees to testing adn we got a fight! oh wait no pac now im only willing to give you a 40 million flat fee with no ppv. IT WAS ABOUT THE TESTING YOU GUYS!

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        #173
        Originally posted by djtmal
        c'mon man don't play yourself with the excuses...even ray Charles could see, that Baldomir was the easiest fight....presented the least amount of risk...
        you say excuse....is it not an irrefutable fact....baldomir was the champ....margo held a trinket

        what made margo so dangerous? getting beat by no names? daniel santos? blitzed by a 40 year old mosley? Getting his ears boxed off by Cotto two times, had a lil help in the first fight

        oh yea getting beat to bits by manny?


        you're talking 2006-2007 mayweather, not 38 year old mayweather...margo is an elite fighters punching bag....looked terrible vs mosley, pac, cotto

        also how is it "ducking" when DLH is more dangerous than Margo? margo lost that summer and mayweather beat an undefeated hatton who was a bigger star and more accomplished than margo and williams.....

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          #174
          Originally posted by djtmal
          oscar, and pacquaio, give him a serious run for his "money", in terms of prime fighters that they fought and beat, but are we debating who could beat Floyd, or how many champs Floyd beat, because I could have sworn the discussion was about what style or gameplan could beat Floyd, and I swear man, I don't care what the topic of discussion is, that is all you cats harp on...an accumulation of guys who were paper champs, and guys had he fought them at the proper timeline, it would hold some real weight...
          i answered the OP earlier.....A much bigger fighter, with great chin, high work rate, stamina, and BOXING SKILLS....Margo doesnt have enough craft to have even trouble him...that tall and no jab and outside game lol

          now back to the"he ducked doe, he fought nobody bytch fest"...you cant pick your era...case closed

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            #175
            Originally posted by Metho_4u
            We weren't even talking about weight classes to begin with moron. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Have you not read the thread title?
            I would imagine we can discuss any weight class Floyd was in can we?, and oh yeah I been responded to the thread title...pages ago remember? this is what I said:

            ok cool...I could make a case for Trinidad, Oscar, Sugar, Hearns, Norris, Whitaker, Duran, maybe even Benitez beating Floyd Mayweather @ 147, and yes you can say because those guys were the great fighters of their era, that they would beat Floyd, because all of those guys have a prime atg, or at least a prime HOF fighter that they beat @ 147 to make it stick, and Floyd just doesn't man...

            its you cats who always digress to the Floyd beat a million paper champs/pacquaio didn't take the test garbage...we just trying to offer up some legit names that could beat Floyd in a boxing match...

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              #176
              Originally posted by djtmal
              oscar, and pacquaio, give him a serious run for his "money", in terms of prime fighters that they fought and beat, but are we debating who could beat Floyd, or how many champs Floyd beat, because I could have sworn the discussion was about what style or gameplan could beat Floyd, and I swear man, I don't care what the topic of discussion is, that is all you cats harp on...an accumulation of guys who were paper champs, and guys had he fought them at the proper timeline, it would hold some real weight...
              here is the proper timeline


              Pac was #1 when he fought him

              ortiz was #2-3 contender and titlist

              Mosley #1

              Miadana was top 5

              Hatton and Marquez were champs from lighter weights who moved up to challenge him

              Guerrero was ranked top 5

              Judah was top 3 contender, and was undisputed prior to losing to baldomir

              Baldomir was champion

              ...anything else to reach for and whine about

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                #177
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                i answered the OP earlier.....A much bigger fighter, with great chin, high work rate, stamina, and BOXING SKILLS....Margo doesnt have enough craft to have even trouble him...that tall and no jab and outside game lol

                now back to the"he ducked doe, he fought nobody bytch fest"...you cant pick your era...case closed
                so the excuse is, he can't pick his era, for not making a fight with margarito, even though 8 million was on the table, and margarito was in his era?

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  here is the proper timeline


                  Pac was #1 when he fought him

                  ortiz was #2-3 contender and titlist

                  Mosley #1

                  Miadana was top 5

                  Hatton and Marquez were champs from lighter weights who moved up to challenge him

                  Guerrero was ranked top 5

                  Judah was top 3 contender, and was undisputed prior to losing to baldomir

                  Baldomir was champion

                  ...anything else to reach for and whine about

                  lol...out of everything I said, you saw timeline, and couldn't resist to come up with the ready made excuses...

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    so the excuse is, he can't pick his era, for not making a fight with margarito, even though 8 million was on the table, and margarito was in his era?
                    so ODLH was not more dangerous, and didnt bring in more $$$ 2007?

                    did margarito lose to Williams summer 2007?

                    did williams lose to Quintana feb. 2008, after mayweather beat hatton?

                    so beating the last two undisputed/lineal champions, winning the lineal title didnt mean more than fighting for the WBO vs an unknown fight in margo?



                    being real, you sound like you are desperate for something to complain about.....have at it bro, you dont have to like facts for them to be valid....

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      so ODLH was not more dangerous, and didnt bring in more $$$ 2007?

                      did margarito lose to Williams summer 2007?

                      did williams lose to Quintana feb. 2008, after mayweather beat hatton?

                      so beating the last two undisputed/lineal champions, winning the lineal title didnt mean more than fighting for the WBO vs an unknown fight in margo?



                      being real, you sound like you are desperate for something to complain about.....have at it bro, you dont have to like facts for them to be valid....

                      I am a different type of dude altogether from you Floyd boys...

                      My favorite fighter is Hagler, and I would have been pissed if he would have stalled Hearns out, because Hearns was icing cats....Hagler was my fav, but fav or not, he would have been hogtied for not fighting the most dangerous version of Hearns...

                      you Floyd boys, just make excuses for Floyd...

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