Why didnt fighters ever fight Floyd on the back foot and make him lead?

[SplitSecond]

Mayweather just never fought any real talent with that style. The guys capable were way past it in hoya and pacquiao one of which carries more of a pressuring demeanor.

Mayweather was probably the most legit outfighter of his era, that was his style. His best strategy for corrales and maidana was outboxing. Otherwise despite being average fighters they arguably beat him.

[Bjl12]

I remember when fighters quit chasing Chris Byrd and made him come forward he looked bad, McCline, Wlad Golota etc. Everyone tried to be aggressive with Mayweather and out work him. No one ran and made him come forward and lead with punches.

This clown has been a boxing fan for like 5 years because he knows nothing about the Floyd that KO'd fighters. Gatti, Judah, Mosley, Ndou, parts of Canelo, parts of Ortiz, Mitchell, Corley, Chavez, Corrales, and Hernandez are all champions that Floyd fought coming forward. Of the fights I just named 7/11 were KO/TKO's victories.

Fighters fight Floyd coming forward (and so Floyd backward) because that is where the "blueprint" lies. Floyd's closest fights are Maidana 1 and JLC 1. In those fights Floyd won narrow SD and a draw could very well be argued.

There is no such blueprint for when Floyd comes forward. To put it simply, since you are a new boxing fan, trainers review when a fighter was most vulnerable in their career and try to emulate those tactics.

Without a doubt a rough 'em up style (and being dirty), like in JLC1 and Maidana1, there is a real blueprint to potential victory.

[Bjl12]

Mayweather just never fought any real talent with that style. The guys capable were why past it in hoya and pacquiao one of which carries more of a pressuring demeanor.

Mayweather was probably the most legit outfighter of his era, that was his style. His best strategy for corrales and maidana was outboxing. Otherwise despite being average fighters arguably beat him.

IMO JCC Sr. beats Floyd as well as Duran. They had the stay-busy rough 'em up inside skills as well as the ability to be "a little dirty" to ruffle Floyd's feathers enough to get him off his game.

I always felt Duran/JCC beat Floyd. Not taking anything away from Floyd - hell of a fighter - but he's not TBE lol. Best of this era, sure, but definitely not "TBE". Probably top 25 though

[elfag]

Mayweather just never fought any real talent with that style. The guys capable were way past it in hoya and pacquiao one of which carries more of a pressuring demeanor.

Mayweather was probably the most legit outfighter of his era, that was his style. His best strategy for corrales and maidana was outboxing. Otherwise despite being average fighters they arguably beat him.

noob alert

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Lmao...

Cuz he would walk you down behind the high guard and bomb away with lead rights...


"Floyd not effective coming forward". Lmao what a crock of shyt

[Reloaded]

Floyd is not a pressure fighter, he will wait and doesnt care if the fans boo, floyd forced marquez to come forward, and that took jmm out of his game plan, because jmm sucks going forward so jmm played into floyds hands.

Floyd uses a long stance he has superior reach so he takes a lot of real estate in the ring giving his opponent the illusion that floyd is closer than he is so they fall sucker to it and start pressing him only to miss.

Most trainers today are garbage they have no clue on how to teach or fight against the shoulder roll stance of floyd. If floyd fought in the forties he would be a dime a dozen, and probably not last long because his style was very common in those days it was actually the norm back then, floyd is not unique stylewise he just uses an obsolete style that nobody teaches anymore and it works because no trainer or fighter has a clue how to face it.

Watch older tape fighters would maul guys and press them if they fought like floyd, this why maidana and castillo had the best success against him, and those guys arent even as great of the pressure high cardio 15 round maulers of the olden days who faced shoulder roll defense fighters regulary

What a BS post that was lol.

Floyd is not who he is because of his style, he is an ATG because what he can do with the style, Floyds boxing IQ is his greatest asset, Floyd Mayweather will never be a dime a dozen in any era what a ******ed assessment.

The thing with over thinking things is that when you think you have the eureka moment its actually as dumb as dog sht to everybody else and you look the idiot.

[elfag]

Lmao...

Cuz he would walk you down behind the high guard and bomb away with lead rights...


"Floyd not effective coming forward". Lmao what a crock of shyt

He also spends a good portion of the second half of many fights doing just this, when he has his opponents timing mastered and they are starting to tire out.

How OP even came up with the notion that floyd never takes a step forward, I have no idea.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

He also spends a good portion of the second half of many fights doing just this, when he has his opponents timing mastered and they are starting to tire out.

How OP even came up with the notion that floyd never takes a step forward, I have no idea.

Exactly right about the 2nd half of the fight..

As soon as Floyd backs you up into the ropes, that's the beginning of the end..

Judah and hatton fights are perfect examples

[i love boxing]

Mayweather just never fought any real talent with that style. The guys capable were way past it in hoya and pacquiao one of which carries more of a pressuring demeanor.

Mayweather was probably the most legit outfighter of his era, that was his style. His best strategy for corrales and maidana was outboxing. Otherwise despite being average fighters they arguably beat him.

huh??? he was knocked out

[koolkc107]

Floyd is not a pressure fighter, he will wait and doesnt care if the fans boo, floyd forced marquez to come forward, and that took jmm out of his game plan, because jmm sucks going forward so jmm played into floyds hands.

Floyd uses a long stance he has superior reach so he takes a lot of real estate in the ring giving his opponent the illusion that floyd is closer than he is so they fall sucker to it and start pressing him only to miss.

Most trainers today are garbage they have no clue on how to teach or fight against the shoulder roll stance of floyd. If floyd fought in the forties he would be a dime a dozen, and probably not last long because his style was very common in those days it was actually the norm back then, floyd is not unique stylewise he just uses an obsolete style that nobody teaches anymore and it works because no trainer or fighter has a clue how to face it.

Watch older tape fighters would maul guys and press them if they fought like floyd, this why maidana and castillo had the best success against him, and those guys arent even as great of the pressure high cardio 15 round maulers of the olden days who faced shoulder roll defense fighters regulary

Certain fighters would be good no matter when they fought.

Put Floyd Mayweather in the 40s and he is still elite.

I doubt he'd be undefeated since they fought way more often, but he'd still be who he is now.

The problem with your reasoning is that no matter how common that style was back in the day, very few ever mastered it.

Floyd mastered it.

It isn't just about learning the technique. It's about knowing it so well it is automatic. And, you also need to be gifted athletically. You need exceptional reflexes. Those guys from way back when were just like the average guys now good, not great. And the elites from back then would have the very same problems today's elites have.

The only thing that would have happened if you put Floyd back in the 40s is that he'd have a lot more KOs