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  • Lester Tutor
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    #31
    Originally posted by NaijaD
    I have never heard of anyone accepting a flat fee in the biggest fight in the sport and I don't think it should start with Golovkin. Doesn't matter what he's made before this fight, he's a unified champion, consensus top 5 p4p fighter and Canelo's strongest B side option by far.
    apparently you slept in 2010 when Floyd publicly offered Pac 40 million. What's 15 million to 40 million? Wasn't Pac a 4 time Lineal holder before 2010? Didn't Floyd specifically state he held the PPV record? Undefeated? A-side?

    How many NSB'rs said that Floyd would've ''lost'' or ducked Pac in 2010? How many NSB'rs and industry acknowledge the ''wait'' which would benefit both boxers in the end?

    Alvarez doesn't need Golovkin. It may be it's what the fans want NOW, but Alvarez has a ways to go. How many say Floyd ducked Paul Williams? How many people say Bowe ducked Lewis? How many will say Golovkin ducked Ward?

    Floyd left the standard for excuses, the examples. Even if Alvarez beats Gennady by end of this year or 2018, guys like the OP will say he ducked Gennady in 2016, and thus it's the May vs Pac 2010 paradox reborn.

    This is why the K2 clowns should either accept 15 million or just focus on getting the WBO belt which has been said here a dozen times... which is why the OP is finally acknowledging it. For example like when the OP bites his nails thinking of Alvarez.
    Last edited by Lester Tutor; 02-24-2017, 01:39 PM.

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    • WombBat
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      #32
      Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko
      Matter of fact is 15M is more than Golovkin deserves, I thought they would offer him 8M, why doesn't he take the ****ing fight??? Is it cause Canelo beat him in sparring?? According to Sergey Kovalev the fight was 50/50 when they sparred 7 years ago, Golovkin has aged since then and Canelo has improved, maybe he's scared of the fight, why not accept any of Canelo's offers?? He rejected the 155 offer, and now he's rejecting 15M at 160, wtf???
      I think you're right.
      Lets see what Chavez gets for this fight, and we know he is a bigger name than GGG.

      15M is 3x more than GGG has ever gotten, if not more. GGG said before "watch, Canelo is going to offer some bull**** like 2 million." 15Mil is a lot more than that.

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      • Sadiqkingofko
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        #33
        Originally posted by WombBat
        I think you're right.
        Lets see what Chavez gets for this fight, and we know he is a bigger name than GGG.

        15M is 3x more than GGG has ever gotten, if not more. GGG said before "watch, Canelo is going to offer some bull**** like 2 million." 15Mil is a lot more than that.
        I love Golovkin but 15M is serious money, esp since if he wins he can make up to 50M in the rematch, why is he avoiding all offers???

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #34
          Originally posted by NaijaD
          That's the thing that most people don't get..... GGG is half of the equation in regards to why people want to see this fight. Canelo needs him too, it's his only fight that has a real chance of doing a million + buys. There are a lot of fans that aren't interested in paying for upcoming fights of both guys but will fork over their $70 for Canelo vs GGG.

          We don't know how well this fight will do, the possibilities in terms of buys are quite high and Golovkin deserves a deal that sees his earnings grow alongside the PPV numbers, how does Khan get a percentage but Golovkin doesn't?? .... what PPV had Khan sold or been involved in? ..... before anyone tells me Khan made less than 15 million, of course he did... it was a much smaller fight than Canelo vs GGG. Golovkin is a bigger draw than Khan as far as any US based fight is concerned, why is a better draw getting a proportionally worse deal?

          Canelo and GBP just seem to send trash offers to whoever they aren't interested in fighting. Chavez Jr's career was literally in the bin before this fight which is why they could **** him in negotiations.

          I'll say it again...... I have never heard of anyone accepting a flat fee in the biggest fight in the sport and I don't think it should start with Golovkin. Doesn't matter what he's made before this fight, he's a unified champion, consensus top 5 p4p fighter and Canelo's strongest B side option by far.
          Good post as usual. The one problem is Canelo has more options to earn money. He can afford not to fight GGG because he can still make enough with other people.

          He can afford to wait GGG out. Can GGG afford to wait Canelo out?

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          • NaijaD
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            #35
            Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
            apparently you slept in 2010 when Floyd publicly offered Pac 40 million. What's 15 million to 40 million? Wasn't Pac a 4 time Lineal holder before 2010? Didn't Floyd specifically state he held the PPV record? Undefeated? A-side?
            I clearly missed the part where Pac ACCEPTED the 40 million offer like you expect Golovkin to.

            Do you not know the difference between something being offered and accepted you trolling bastard?

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            • NaijaD
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              #36
              Also people talking about rematches, if Golovkin dominates/destroys (most think he will) Canelo then the value of the rematch will be significantly less than the first fight if it were to take place. A rematch is not enough incentive to accept a flat fee.

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              • NaijaD
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                #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Good post as usual. The one problem is Canelo has more options to earn money. He can afford not to fight GGG because he can still make enough with other people.

                He can afford to wait GGG out. Can GGG afford to wait Canelo out?
                That is true, Canelo does seemingly have more options.

                GGG may have to wait until GBP and Canelo think he is beatable before he gets a fair deal. That's how I see it playing out.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by NaijaD
                  That is true, Canelo does seemingly have more options.

                  GGG may have to wait until GBP and Canelo think he is beatable before he gets a fair deal. That's how I see it playing out.
                  I think they might avoid him all together, especially since I saw that Canelo is 94% of GBP's income.

                  People forget that most casual fans saw him against Floyd and he didn't look good. Another poor performance in a loss could really hurt his brand outside of his base.

                  I'm not buying another Canelo fight until he fights GGG so as long as they don't make a deal I save money. LOL.

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                  • Mequetrefe
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    If GGG accepts the offer, then we won't have to hear any crying from anyone.
                    Originally posted by -PBP-
                    Why not just take the "alleged" $15 million, kick his ass and then take a 50/50 split in the rematch?

                    Both sides are acting like divas. Oscar doesn't want the fight and Loeffler thinks GGG is a bigger star than he really is.
                    whoa, hold your horses gentlemen, simmadowna. Who said Canelo was getting past Julio the savage??

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mequetrefe
                      whoa, hold your horses gentlemen, simmadowna. Who said Canelo was getting past Julio the savage??
                      Fair point. Or GGG past Jacobs.

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