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  • bojangles1987
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    #21
    It's all about Haymon.

    The idea that Wilder somehow ducked Povetkin when Povetkin is the one popping dirty for PEDs was always about the shame of spending months insisting Wilder didn't want the fight. And that insistence had everything to do with believing Wilder being a Haymon fighter.

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    • daggum
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Ortiz owes HBO a fight. So him calling Wilder out when he knows he can't go to SHO is BS.
      oh right just like ortizs last fight against allen was on hbo....oh wait no thats not an exclusive deal like ggg's. he can fight wherever he wants.

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        #23
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Why do you pretend like it overshadows the other bums he's fought as if it's Povetkin's fault that he chose Wrazdyk or Szpilka or Arreola or Molina.
        And after he knocked out Molina, Joshua chose to defend against him.

        It's just an obvious double standard. If you're with Haymon, NSB ****s on you.

        Even though Wilder has the best win of any heavyweight champion, is the longest reigning champion, holds the title with the longest unbroken lineage, etc.

        I don't see a bunch of threads bashing Joshua and Parker, even though neither has a better win than Wilder. So strange.

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          #24
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          It's all about Haymon.

          The idea that Wilder somehow ducked Povetkin when Povetkin is the one popping dirty for PEDs was always about the shame of spending months insisting Wilder didn't want the fight. And that insistence had everything to do with believing Wilder being a Haymon fighter.
          Dude Wilder has been fighting nothing but bums his whole title "reign"

          he is afraid to fight the best

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            #25
            Originally posted by The Smash
            Wilder is an exceptionally weak title holder, certainly one of the weakest in the history of heavyweight boxing.

            If everything about him was the exact same, except he was from Ghana instead of Alabama, he wouldn't be in the position he's in. He didn't get there on merit. He hasn't fought his way up, he's it all handed it to him.

            The exact second he steps in with Joshua, Ortiz, Fury or Haye, he is getting exposed as the overhyped chickenshit that he is.
            That has nothing to do with this thread. It's not about whether he can beat the top fighters but rather about if he's willing to fight the best of the best.

            And Wilder has proven that he is willing to fight the best of the best in their own back yard. But NSB posters penalize him for his courageousness.

            I want to get to the bottom of why people feel the need to criticize courageousness and the willingness of fighters to take on killers in hostile environments.

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              #26
              Originally posted by daggum
              oh right just like ortizs last fight against allen was on hbo....oh wait no thats not an exclusive deal like ggg's. he can fight wherever he wants.
              You don't understand how the sport works.

              HBO passed on an Ortiz fight, but he still owes them another fight. They would not pass on Ortiz-Wilder, therefore, that fight can't happen until Ortiz fulfills his obligation to HBO.

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                #27
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                It's all about Haymon.

                The idea that Wilder somehow ducked Povetkin when Povetkin is the one popping dirty for PEDs was always about the shame of spending months insisting Wilder didn't want the fight. And that insistence had everything to do with believing Wilder being a Haymon fighter.
                They are trying to turn this into a resume thread. I admit his resume is pure garbage. But he was granted an opportunity to up his resume against the #2 heavyweight in the world on his own turf but the PED cheat killed that opportunity.

                Luckily Team Wilder sued his ass and won in court.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MoneyKasha
                  Dude Wilder has been fighting nothing but bums his whole title "reign"

                  he is afraid to fight the best
                  How is he afraid to fight the best when he signed to fight Povetkin IN RUSSIA?

                  That is not his fault. Saying Wilder doesn't want to fight the best when he already tried is ridiculous.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    How is he afraid to fight the best when he signed to fight Povetkin IN RUSSIA?

                    That is not his fault. Saying Wilder doesn't want to fight the best when he already tried is ridiculous.
                    its not just povetkin

                    he has fought nothing but bums in the past

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by -PBP-
                      They are trying to turn this into a resume thread. I admit his resume is pure garbage. But he was granted an opportunity to up his resume against the #2 heavyweight in the world on his own turf but the PED cheat killed that opportunity.

                      Luckily Team Wilder sued his ass and won in court.
                      You can't name many heavies that don't have a garbage resume...it's a garbage division.

                      AJ and Ortiz just fought his leftovers...yet Wilder is the only one with the garbage resume.

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