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  • Originally posted by yammy25 View Post
    You realise because haymon lost the purse bid, it was povetkins promoters decision to have it in Russia?

    If Wilder said no, he'd have been stripped. If Wilder was stripped, how long do you think it'd take him to get a title from the other sanctioning bodies? i reckon 2 years easy
    We've seen fighters vacate to avoid mandatories before. It takes balls to defend a title in enemy territory. That's what we ask from fighters all the time.

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    • Originally posted by original zero View Post
      It's up to the challengers to step the **** up. The problem with fans recognizing four belts is that it allows guys to hide from the real champs.

      Parker is able to hide behind the WBO belt instead of facing Wilder. Joshua was able to target Martin instead of facing Wilder. Ortiz his behind an interim belt instead of facing Wilder. Etc etc.

      Povetkin was the mandatory and the top contender in the world. Wilder flew to Moscow to face him in enemy territory. Who has Wilder been ducking? Nobody.

      If Wilder was as weak as you NSB idiots claim, guys would be lining up to face him.

      Hughie Fury was able to choose between Wilder and Parker. He chose Parker. Do you think that was because his team considered Parker an easier fight or a harder fight? Obviously they considered it an easier fight.

      Stop recognizing the WBOgus belt and a lot of this will take care of itself.

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      • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        No I'm totally content with the heavyweight champion squeezing in poor fight after poor fight on short notice because he has an urge to fight.
        Who said Wilder is THE champion? Other than himself?

        Now even then Wilder can do whatever he pleases his career his choices, he wants to fight every 4 weeks against a bum in a bum of the month club style fight so be it. A guy will make their career what they want it to be, he is the one that has to look in the mirror.

        He had a fight lined up for big money, that was taken away from him not by his own doing so he wanted to get in the ring and make some money quickly to cover all those expenses that he incurred for a fight that didn't happen on a quick turnaround.

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        • Look at the ranking right now! please pick Andy Ruiz! hes legit top ten! why they pressing us on old 'King-Dung'? or even Dillan Whyte! surely that win will render credibility?! I don't know how the hell 'Big-Baby' Miller got on there but ok bring him too! its kinda funny how these haters been begging Wilder for a fight a top ten a few months back but as the moment of truth comes that bar has been raised to top five! I wonder why? at this rate like I said before Deontay is going to have to unify and win every title by KO to get some recognition.........maybe!

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          • Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
            Look at the ranking right now! please pick Andy Ruiz! hes legit top ten! why they pressing us on old 'King-Dung'? or even Dillan Whyte! surely that win will render credibility?! I don't know how the hell 'Big-Baby' Miller got on there but ok bring him too! its kinda funny how these haters been begging Wilder for a fight a top ten a few months back but as the moment of truth comes that bar has been raised to top five! I wonder why? at this rate like I said before Deontay is going to have to unify and win every title by KO to get some recognition.........maybe!
            That's what you always **** on about him doing though pal? so with your permission, until he does that... im going to stay over on my side of the fence saying he needs to fight better opposition than he has done at this stage of his pro career before he says he's "the man at HW"

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            • Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
              Look at the ranking right now! please pick Andy Ruiz! hes legit top ten! why they pressing us on old 'King-Dung'? or even Dillan Whyte! surely that win will render credibility?! I don't know how the hell 'Big-Baby' Miller got on there but ok bring him too! its kinda funny how these haters been begging Wilder for a fight a top ten a few months back but as the moment of truth comes that bar has been raised to top five! I wonder why? at this rate like I said before Deontay is going to have to unify and win every title by KO to get some recognition.........maybe!
              That's how these guys operate. They wait for a fighter to lose so they can say "I told you so". So every time the fighter achieves a milestone they move the goal posts.

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              • Originally posted by -PBP- View Post
                We've seen fighters vacate to avoid mandatories before. It takes balls to defend a title in enemy territory. That's what we ask from fighters all the time.
                not any more balls than your own territory, if you think "enemy territory" puts you at a disadvantage then thinking "home territory" gives you the opposite is just as bad lol because you'll be hoping it plays a part the same way enemy territory makes you hope it doesnt.

                Uncle Al should have put his hands in his pockets more, but he knows deontay doesnt command those figures because he fights poor stock at home in Alabama.

                BUT... if he vacated, there wouldnt be the excuse of " he'd have got robbed doe!!" "loads of fighters vacate doe" no? I guarantee there would be this rationalization all over this forum.

                that being said...Why does Brook get slagged off for fighting spence at a weight unsuited to him now in what is clearly a high risk / low reward scenario in an era when people can vacate when the situation doesnt suit them?

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                • Originally posted by yammy25 View Post
                  That's what you always **** on about him doing though pal? so with your permission, until he does that... im going to stay over on my side of the fence saying he needs to fight better opposition than he has done at this stage of his pro career before he says he's "the man at HW"
                  Why dont you go on to a Parker thread and express your contempt at Joseph for ruling out Wilder over Joshua? if you really want to see Wilder get a crack at a champion soooo bad!

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                  • Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
                    Why dont you go on to a Parker thread and express your contempt at Joseph for ruling out Wilder over Joshua? if you really want to see Wilder get a crack at a champion soooo bad!
                    Ohhhhhhhh!

                    Somebody slapped a ****.

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                    • Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
                      Why dont you go on to a Parker thread and express your contempt at Joseph for ruling out Wilder over Joshua? if you really want to see Wilder get a crack at a champion soooo bad!
                      Top keks. I dont rate Parker either i think he's just as static as Joshua. If he goes against Joshua like he did against dimitrenko AJ will have his head off and it isnt like Roboshua is a ballerina of movement is it.

                      Wouldnt be surpirsed to see Hughie resoundingly outbox Parker if he even remotely resembles his cousin.

                      But lets get down to the nitty gritty of it shall we ?

                      AJ commands 400/600,000 buys everytime he fights with his klitschko bout predicted to do over 1000,000 buys.

                      Deontay Wilder fights on free TV on shotime, and his largest FREE audience was circa 1.1 million against stiverne, the numbers havent come close to that again since because the broner fight at the weekend was their highest since that fight at 779k average.

                      If you were Joseph Parker, would you like a big fat slice of the anthony joshua, casual-fuelled money pie thats gona give you millions..... or would you like the deontay free to air meal in a bag thats gonna give you a resounding **** all in comparison.

                      I know what I'd have. Anyone would think this sport is primarily a business

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