Comments Thread For: Canelo Says Golovkin Given Good Offer, Not Being Reasonable

[RL_GMA]

Canelo vs GGG CLEARLY does over 1 Mill buys, let's not fool ourselves. The general public got turned off by Floyd vs Manny, and even I said Canelo vs Cotto wasn't as big a mainstream fight as Canelo vs GGG will be. If and when they announce that fight I have no doubt the casuals will get on board because both guys KO people and are action fighters, exactly what casuals ALWAYS thrive for.

[elfag]

Floyd got a cut of the PPV revenue which at the time was the biggest PPV in history. That's all anyone's asking for. Even when Canelo fought Floyd with 0 PPV experience he got a cut of the revenue too.

Im all for him getting a cut, in fact it gives him incentive to help promote the fight, with a flat rate he doesnt have incentive. I think 15 million flat is very fair though, especially with ppv sales down, they are taking on additional risk to give him a higher flat rate. If this is the only thing that holds up the fight then I blame GGG.

If he wants a ppv cut then I would expect a lower guarantee

[Canelo and GGG]

Canelo vs GGG CLEARLY does over 1 Mill buys, let's not fool ourselves. The general public got turned off by Floyd vs Manny, and even I said Canelo vs Cotto wasn't as big a mainstream fight as Canelo vs GGG will be. If and when they announce that fight I have no doubt the casuals will get on board because both guys KO people and are action fighters, exactly what casuals ALWAYS thrive for.

Maybe ,but Cotto got far More mainstream exposer then GGG,He was in ring with Mosley(in his good years),Money and Pacman,then Canelo all good selling PPVs ,he did 400k with Judah ,Cotto is quite a draw.

[Canelo and GGG]

Im all for him getting a cut, in fact it gives him incentive to help promote the fight, with a flat rate he doesnt have incentive. I think 15 million flat is very fair though, especially with ppv sales down, they are taking on additional risk to give him a higher flat rate. If this is the only thing that holds up the fight then I blame GGG.

If he wants a ppv cut then I would expect a lower guarantee

Yea mutch lower ,some thing like 5m or 4,5

[Robbie Barrett]

The difference in what Manny and GGG make is irrelevant to the point. On top of that, GGG makes more than his guarantee ($2 Mill) with his endorsements ala Canelo who also only pockets a $5 mill guarantee before his own endorsements / International TV rights. Canelo vs GGG is potentially a $100 fight and Canelo will get the obvious bigger share but GGG will be given the smaller split and Oscar and team know that. All this is just posturing from Canelo.

Pacquiao wasn't even offered double and Golovkin is offered 5x what he usually earns. That's very relevant only a moron would say it isn't. How is it 100 mil fight? Half the PPV go to the cable providers and HBO, is this fight going to sell over 2 mil? I love how people know **** all and think they can discuss the subject.

[elfag]

Canelo vs GGG CLEARLY does over 1 Mill buys, let's not fool ourselves. The general public got turned off by Floyd vs Manny, and even I said Canelo vs Cotto wasn't as big a mainstream fight as Canelo vs GGG will be. If and when they announce that fight I have no doubt the casuals will get on board because both guys KO people and are action fighters, exactly what casuals ALWAYS thrive for.

cotto is way more well known than GGG. the only thing that GGG has going for him is highlight reel KO footage but because he hasnt fought any names other than brook, he doesnt have the recognition he should as a 35 year old undisputed champ.

[Robbie Barrett]

I'll leave this article here for all the posters that think they know what they're talking about with PPV money but really don't (there will be lots).

Business of Boxing: How Does the Pay-Per-View Deal Work?

by Charles Jay

Where does the money go when a fan plunks down $49.95 to see a pay-per-view fight on television? Does it go directly to the fighters? Does it go into the hands of promoters? What role do the networks play? Maybe this piece will, in a basic sort of way, shine some light on it for you.

As the apparatus of pay-per-view has matured, it has evolved into a process that customarily works like this: the promoter will make a fight between two combatants, along with an undercard to support it. He approaches the pay-per-view distributor, like HBO PPV or Showtime PPV (or the new entrant, Epix) with that fight, and the distributor makes the decision as to whether to carry it or not. If the fight gets the green light, the distributor goes to work clearing the fight with the MSO’s (multiple system operators) who control virtually the entire cable universe. These include companies like Time Warner, Cablevision, Comcast. Cox and Charter.

The cable systems are in on the deal; that’s their price tag for carrying a certain amount of weight on the local and regional level. They are going to run commercials for the event, and sometimes the promotional materials can be provided by the promoter, although often the cable people will put together their own, because they may have certain special promotions they will do in association with the event.

The standard breakdown as far as money is concerned is a 10% fee off the top for the distributor, with 45% each for the cable system and the promoter. So when you see a price tag on a fight, you know that the promoter will get about 45% of that.

Let’s say a fight is priced at $49.95, which for the sake of simplicity we are going to round up to $50. If it’s HBO PPV that is being used, HBO is not a party that is at risk as far as the fight itself is concerned but will take the 10% fee off the top ($5). The promoter and the cable companies both wind up with $22.50 per “sub” (or subscriber).

If a fight sells a million pay-per-view subscribers, HBO’s pay-per-view arm will get $5 million and the promoters will pocket $22,500,000. If that level of revenue, along with the other revenue streams (live gate or casino site fee, merchandising, international rights, etc.) did not meet what the promoter guaranteed the fighters, well, let’s just say that would be an unfortunate occurrence.

Bump from earlier in the thread. People that know nothing are trying to talk PPV revenue.

[BoxingFan85]

Boxing splits are decided by how much you draw, not how good you are. I can't believe this has to be told to you.

I don't take boxing/business knowledge from morons like you.. Thanks for trying doe..

[Robbie Barrett]

I don't take boxing/business knowledge from morons like you.. Thanks for trying doe..

You don't take any knowledge from anyone if you believe fighters splits are decided on how good they are.

You make lots of posts where it's quite obvious you lack common sense.

[BoxingFan85]

You don't take any knowledge from anyone if you believe fighters splits are decided on how good they are.

Stop putting your face on every post

Splits are decided based on what you bring to the table(4 titles) & your star power.. If you think its just how much you can draw then