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  • Robi13
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    #61
    Originally posted by boxingitis
    So you agree Cotto is less of fighter than them at this point. So you agree Canelo didnt beat the best Cotto.
    I see what you did there, but we haven't seen the best Canelo. So the best Canelo didn't beat the best cotto. See how easy that is?

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    • Kigali
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      #62
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      He got GREAT hand speed
      Good feet placement
      Good/great head movement
      Good power
      GREAT Combos
      He started out at 139 lbs. Already in his 3rd division. At least he's not SQUATING in 1 DUMP division his entire career.

      Honestly more $$$$ is at SWW. The MW division only has 1-2 guys. While SWW is STACKED! Thurman, Spence, Brook, Porter could all easily move up to 154 down the road.
      Canelo ain't got no damn GREAT handspeed...just stop it.
      Great combos against who???

      Good/great head movement...for a few rounds,then he gets tired

      He can't even control the center of the ring...always finds himself on the ropes.


      Canelito ain't going NEAR the Charlos and Andrade.

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      • Lester Tutor
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        #63
        Originally posted by Kigali
        No he hasn't.

        He still can't stay off the ropes.
        He still has ****ty stamina
        He still loads up on everything
        He still can't hold the center of the ring
        He still won't step to the big boys in his division

        This myth that Canelo is this new improved fighter is nonsense and should be put to rest.
        My little bro. Playing rope a dope has its advantages. Good defensive fighters use the ropes as an advantage not a disadvantage. You should know that the ropes also absorb power from the Kinetic energy. RJJ could do it gracefull as Floyd as Ali. First you need to be a fighter that can take shots in general.

        Alvarez was able to see Cotto's multiple jabs, Golovkin loads up on power jabs against weaker competition. I said this in 2015, as time goes one, GGG will fatigue more.

        Chavez Jr. vs Alvarez is a hard fight for Alvarez. Chavez Jr. comes to bring it. Expect Alvarez to be moving around ala Cotto

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          #64
          Originally posted by Kigali
          Canelo ain't got no damn GREAT handspeed...just stop it.
          Great combos against who???

          Good/great head movement...for a few rounds,then he gets tired

          He can't even control the center of the ring...always finds himself on the ropes.


          Canelito ain't going NEAR the Charlos and Andrade.




          Khan and Smith both were caught with Combos they didn't even see coming. His body to uppercut combo is a thing of beauty. Come-on man don't troll. I agre his stamina suks and he couldn't cut the ring off to save his life.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Slowhand
            ..and stamina. Canelo will be huffing and puffing from the constant pressure by mid rounds. Or not, what the fcuk do I know.. the JCC fight might tell us more about Canelo when he´s not drained.
            I agree. If Jr comes like in the Sergio Martinez fight he will test Canelo's endurance

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            • Shadoww702
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              #66
              Originally posted by Kigali
              Canelo ain't got no damn GREAT handspeed...just stop it.
              Great combos against who???

              Good/great head movement...for a few rounds,then he gets tired

              He can't even control the center of the ring...always finds himself on the ropes.


              Canelito ain't going NEAR the Charlos and Andrade.
              Andrade is semi retired and RUINING his own career. I mean sht he's going to Germany to fight??? LMAO he better hope he wins by KO because he WON'T get the decision in Germany. No one ever does.

              And Jermell was LOSING EVERY round to big bad ass John Jackson I'm sure Canelo is shaking in his boots!

              Tell you what I'll bet you ANY amount Canelo would beat them if they ever fight.

              Were you the same guy who took Kirkland against Thurman???

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                #67
                Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                My little bro. Playing rope a dope has its advantages. Good defensive fighters use the ropes as an advantage not a disadvantage. You should know that the ropes also absorb power from the Kinetic energy. RJJ could do it gracefull as Floyd as Ali. First you need to be a fighter that can take shots in general.

                Alvarez was able to see Cotto's multiple jabs, Golovkin loads up on power jabs against weaker competition. I said this in 2015, as time goes one, GGG will fatigue more.

                Chavez Jr. vs Alvarez is a hard fight for Alvarez. Chavez Jr. comes to bring it. Expect Alvarez to be moving around ala Cotto
                Canelito doesn't play rope a dope....he just can't hold the center of the ring.

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                • Kigali
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  Andrade is semi retired and RUINING his own career. I mean sht he's going to Germany to fight??? LMAO he better hope he wins by KO because he WON'T get the decision in Germany. No one ever does.

                  And Jermell was LOSING EVERY round to big bad ass John Jackson I'm sure Canelo is shaking in his boots!

                  Tell you what I'll bet you ANY amount Canelo would beat them if they ever fight.

                  Were you the same guy who took Kirkland against Thurman???
                  Canelito ain't going NEAR Andrade or anybody named Charlo.

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                  • Lester Tutor
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Kigali
                    Canelito ain't going NEAR Andrade or anybody named Charlo.
                    those fights can happen. Charlo already said he done 154 his entire career and 160 is a high possibility. Bundrage already went, why wouldn't Charlo do the same? Andrade can move to 160 too. Assuming Alvarez hits as hard a Martirosyan or like another Trout punch... I mean dude you make it sound like the top dogs at 154 can't be hurt. Williams is a way smaller dude than Alvarez and he was able to catch Jermall.

                    But I do like the Charlos and Andrade. Great things to come at 160. Also Lara should be heading there too. 160 is about to pop in 2018. The top guys at 154 now were the same age as Golovkin when he started to get notice around 2009 at 160.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #70
                      Canelo is better at everything, except for maybe raw power

                      MUCH faster hands, more accurate against a higher level of competition, a better boxer/counter-puncher, and he is a better combination puncher

                      I think Team Golovkin know that is a veeeeery dangerous fight for Gennady..... which is why they are hesitant to make the fight unless they get a "cash-out" sized guarantee

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