GGG v. Jacobs is for THE MW title

[Lester Tutor]

Only you or Kigali would be defending CONela.

Glass hearted conela. I guess you can relate to him and he's on your level, so you defend him.

This just goes to show that the lineal title is a flawed system. You can blatantly duck a fighter and still be the 'lineal' champ.

I guess the unified champ, also called the undisputed champ, is the way to tell who THE MAN of the division is.

1. GBP were had no interest in sharing a lion's revenue with K2, hence they didn't care about about the WBC's mandata. (2016)
2. Alvarez told everyone in the post ring to confirm what Oscar said publicly, that K2 was offered up to three times the amount. #8figures
3. Oscar disclosed 15million publicly and K2 never contested Oscar's disclosure to the public, nor have they ever shed light on their opinion of 15million...
4. Offer was for 2017. If K2 doesn't sign, then the fans will have no choice but to acknowledge Golovkin's ideal worth is north of 15 million..for 2017. If K2 and Golovkin don't take 2017, then technically fans can ridicule Golovkin's total earnings for 2017. Logic tells you that Golovkin will continue fighting after 2017... If Golovkin beats Alvarez for the offered bout in 2017, then Golovkin raises his A Side exponentially at 160-168..

Therefore, the lack of confidence from K2 and Golovkin in not taking the bout only suggests that K2 and Golovkin KNOW that Alvarez can go 12 rounds, and they would be afraid of a risky ''robbery.'' This is the real scenario, because again, if Golovkin is the favorite to win and beat Alvarez decisively, then 15 million is more than substantial..

We are not speaking future tense or past tense here. The fight can be made. It's Golovkin delaying the bout for 2017. We will give both parties the benefit of the doubt since they're in training for Q1-Q2 bouts.

Aside from all that and back to the topic at hand, the lineage stays with Alvarez atm.

Jacobs imo is no push over.

Best of luck to Golovkin. If he loses, and if his fans still don'T want him to move up to 168 for a title shot then I don't know what GGGism is about.

I could've just said from the get-go that Golovkin is a hype job.

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

Not sure why some of ya'll keep referring to the middleweight lineage as a title.

[Rock&Roll]

Ok, there a more. Don't make me name them all. The list includes sugarkainhook, nay_sayer, war mikey, amoungst others.

I think sugarkainhook felt left out becaue he wasn't included in the elite echelon of the hating crew..

[Eastcoast]

Monzon's lineal title died with him in a car accident.

1. Hagler's lineal title was lost to Leonard, who didn't lose at the MW range again until his final fight vs Hector Macho Camacho in '97.
2. Camacho didn't lose at the MW range again untii '03 vs 18-6 Chris Walsh.
3. Chris Walsh then lost in '04 at the MW range vs Dirk Dzemski.
4. Dirk Dzemski then lost in '04 at the MW range vs Sebastian Sylvester.
5. Sebastian Sylvester then lost in '06 at the MW range vs Amin Asikainen.
6. Amin Asikainen then lost in '07 to Sebastian Sylvester (at MW range).
7. Sebastian Sylvester then lost in '08 to Felix Sturm (MW range).
8. Felix Sturm then lost in '12 to Daniel Geale.
9. Daniel Geale then lost in '13 to Darren Barker.
10. Darren Barker then lost in '13 to Felix Sturm.
11. Felix Sturm then lost in '14 to Sam Soliman.
12. Sam Soliman then lost in '14 Jermain Taylor.

So if you're really down with whos' the lineal champion, it's Jermain Taylor and not Canelo. Bernard Hopkins was never the lineal MW champion (atleast if you believe Hagler was ever the lineal MW champion).

[Shape up]

If ggg was a pushover, why didn't Canelo fight him as mando, considering the only way he ended up lineal was because cotto paid to bypass him, Canelo begged for a fight at 160 to acclimatize to the weight which ggg allowed, then Canelo picked the chin khan to fight to acclimatize, what a joke, then spruiked about fighting ggg before bowing down and giving his belt away, the lineal title is as much of a joke as fishnets oscar who has taught Canelo how to crossdress, your not a boxing fan Clarke, your a tool for defending canelo

[Eastcoast]

If ggg was a pushover, why didn't Canelo fight him as mando, considering the only way he ended up lineal was because cotto paid to bypass him, Canelo begged for a fight at 160 to acclimatize to the weight which ggg allowed, then Canelo picked the chin khan to fight to acclimatize, what a joke, then spruiked about fighting ggg before bowing down and giving his belt away, the lineal title is as much of a joke as fishnets oscar who has taught Canelo how to crossdress

Well most GGG haters will say it's because GGG wasn't worth the money for Canelo to fight him.

Funny thing is, GGG is worth more money to Canelo than Hopkins was to Trinidad. Difference being, Tito was favored over Hopkins, where GGG is favored over Canelo.

[Larry the boss]

Since Canelo won the "Middleweight" title he has:

1) defended v. a WW at Jr. CaneloWeight
2) won a strap at Jr. MW
3) and will fight at Jr. Cheeseburger Weight

all the while claiming he's not a real MW
I dont care what the lineal purists & the Ring say, he's vacated
GGG & Jacobs are #1 & #2. This is legit for the MW title

I'm tired of the MW title becoming the "Super Junior MW title"
The last time someone 158 lbs or heavier was given a shot at the MW title was April 2013 - so more about 4.5 years - or more if Canelo continues ducking.

IMO, this is for the MW title

[Larry the boss]

According to the purist's, Canelo will retain Bernard's lineal title until he loses at 160.

Of course Bernard started 'his' lineal title when he unified the the WBC, WBA, and IBF titles, something Gololvkin's already accomplished.

lineage was vacant then..it isnt vacant now

[Larry the boss]

I agree, its pathetic holding a lineal title hostage (almost as bad as bjs).

BUT, come the 21st of May... it will be 18 months since conela fought in mw division, and ring belt stipulates one of the seven reasons you can lose your title is...

'The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months'

Given that Jacobs (#2 rated by ring) is fighting GGG (#1 rated by ring), we SHOULD have a new lineal mw title holder on this date.

The undisputed and lineal middleweight champion has a nice 'ring' to it.

On a footnote: The alphabet org's should lower their sanctioning fees for unified champs so the boxers don't have to pay multiple fees and entice them to unify. That's in the fans and boxings best intrest and not their own, so i doubt it'll happen.

Ring belt does not =Lineal title man and come May it will just be a year since he fought at middleweight..155=middleweight

[Larry the boss]

How did Canelo win lineal. By beating Cotto at 155. Now I respect Cotto alot, but he really started this Super Jr. MW title BS.

Beat a gimpy Maravilla, waited a year and defended at 157 (against Geale, a legit MW), then fought Canelo at CaneloWeight.

Actual MWs have been denied the opportunity at the belt since April 2013 - last time it was fought at 160. Thats BS, and not fair to MWs who cant squeeze down to 155.

There's a 154 lb division. If thats where you want to fight, go there. A catchweight once in awhile is fine. But this is ridiculous

He beat Cotto who beat Sergio who beat Pavlik who beat Taylor who beat Hopkins...pretty simple