GGG v. Jacobs is for THE MW title

[Eastcoast]

i see both points to be honest. to your point, they could have drafted a contract to fight at heavyweight, doesn't make them heavyweights. in this case one of the two fighters did go into supermiddleweight limit.

in this scenario each person can make their own judgement and they won't be completely wrong.

I don't actually buy into the idea that Leonard was still the lineal champion, I'm just pointing how based on the same technicalities that favor Canelo being a lineal champion, that Leonard could also.

Leonard/Duran was contracted for SMW, but both men came at the MW limits - Leonard at 160 and Duran at 158. Per Larry, that's still a SMW fight and doesn't count.

[Larry the boss]

I don't actually buy into the idea that Leonard was still the lineal champion, I'm just pointing how based on the same technicalities that favor Canelo being a lineal champion, that Leonard could also.

Leonard/Duran was contracted for SMW, but both men came at the MW limits - Leonard at 160 and Duran at 158. Per Larry, that's still a SMW fight and doesn't count.

not per me..per the contract

[Eastcoast]

Manny was 144 when he fought Margarito...so was it a ww fight?

Nobody would dispute that Manny was fighting as a WW.
Leonard/Duran fight at 160/158, but that's not a MW fight, lol!

If we're going to care what the contracts say and what titles are on the line, why is it irrelevant that Canelo vacated his actual MW title?

The whole idea you're arguing about some superficial status, but then side stepping around guys who 'actually' fight at the weight is coming off a little subjective.

[SensFullViolenc]

Canelo is the lineal, but that doesn't mean it's not a huge joke.

I can accept this reasoning too.

Some of you say that we should subsume our opinions and just accept whatever "lineal rules" or the Ring -- or the ABCs tell you.

I have a brain and I can process facts just like the Ring, or lineal nerds. Especially when the MW lineage has become a joke, hijacked by Super Jr. MWs.

And for the record, I don't care what belts GGG holds - they mean even less than the Ring or lineal.

Who he's beaten in the division matters. Thus, he IS NOT THE CHAMP at MW, not yet. He hasn't done enough.

March 18, #1 & #2 fight, this will decide THE CHAMP.

[SensFullViolenc]

GGG is no.1 ranked. Jacobs is no.2 ranked.

Bingo.

Its not a lineal title fight though. That is still with Canelo. Lineal is not the be all and end all and doesnt always signify the true champion

This. Lineal is only the be all and end all for simple-minded folk, who cant process information independently.

Stevenson is lineal. I believe Linares is lineal too (don't care enough to check). Only simple-minded folks think these dudes are THE CHAMP in their divisions.

[techliam]

There are many variations of the Lineal title. There isn't really a single 'lineal' champion unless its universally recognised across the board.

Just thought i'd throw that into this thread. Give you something to think about..

[mick1303]

No, i just watch fighters technique and strategy, which gets talked about very little on here. From this, i can tell who is the best, not by some organisation telling me.

I have to put up with talking about how many millions a certain fighter should accept or decline, rather than the statagem of boxing chess.

As far as i know if you are unified champion, that makes you undisputed champion. You can't dispute between the alphabet org's, given we just proved lineal is meaningless.

Forget about GGG for a minute. Let's imagine the situation when in one weightclass Fighter A holds WBA and IBF straps, while Fighter B holds WBC and WBO. Both of them are unified champions, but neither is undisputed. Not sure if such split ever happened in reality, but theoretically possible.

[SensFullViolenc]

Just a reminder

that March 18 we have a fight to crown THE MW CHAMP.

[joesaiditstrue]

Lineage isn't even worth mentioning in this situation. Too many special privileges given to guys with this "title".

[b00g13man]

First these Golovkin fans wanted to change the rules for lineal, now they want to change undisputed.

He's got the dumbest fanboys. That's for sure.