Comments Thread For: Judge Rules Against Golden Boy in Its Lawsuit Against Al Haymon

[OnePunch]

AHAHAHAHAHA! She won't let it go.

Reminds me of the all the triggered demo snowflakes protesting.

Ahahahaha. A grown man (I guess) that cannot adjust his brain. SMH

im not surprised that trying to contemplate 3 facts was too much for you.

[Motorcity Cobra]

if Im a dinosaur what does that make you? I guess it makes you nothing. Because all you do is run your mouth about this and that, claiming to be some sort of genius yet you have never done a single thing in the industry.

Its a shame such a brilliant talent as yourself has gone to waste and is relegated to trolling for likes on a message board.

I predicted the lawsuit was BS from the beginning. You've been in the business and predicted different. Who was right and who was wrong?

[snoopymiller]

im not surprised that trying to contemplate 3 facts was too much for you.

You don't get it and will never get it.

Unless those "facts" contribute to the detriment of fighter treatment/compensation ... no reasonable judge or jury would EVER consider them as wrong doings.

SMFH with these mental midgets

[OnePunch]

I predicted the lawsuit was BS from the beginning. You've been in the business and predicted different. Who was right and who was wrong?

I didnt precidt one way or the other how it would end, because thats a fools errand. I did claim however though that I felt that Golden Boys Ali Act claims were solid, and I still do. The Sherman Act stuff I was less familiar with. You seem to want to assume that because they couldnt show how that conduct hurt them, that the conduct didnt happen. Its 2 different things. Haymon IS violating the Ali Act, but its probably only the Justice Dept who could do anything about it, and they have never filed a single case, ever.

But to the overall issue you keep avoiding, who exactly do you think would retain any profit from a PBC event? If your answer is Haymon, then you are acknowledging that he is indeed violating the Ali Act.

[snoopymiller]

I didnt precidt one way or the other how it would end, because thats a fools errand. I did claim however though that I felt that Golden Boys Ali Act claims were solid, and I still do. The Sherman Act stuff I was less familiar with. You seem to want to assume that because they couldnt show how that conduct hurt them, that the conduct didnt happen. Its 2 different things. Haymon IS violating the Ali Act, but its probably only the Justice Dept who could do anything about it, and they have never filed a single case, ever.

But to the overall issue you keep avoiding, who exactly do you think would retain any profit from a PBC event? If your answer is Haymon, then you are acknowledging that he is indeed violating the Ali Act.

Triggered snowflake you are...

[Motorcity Cobra]

I didnt precidt one way or the other how it would end, because thats a fools errand. I did claim however though that I felt that Golden Boys Ali Act claims were solid, and I still do. The Sherman Act stuff I was less familiar with. You seem to want to assume that because they couldnt show how that conduct hurt them, that the conduct didnt happen. Its 2 different things. Haymon IS violating the Ali Act, but its probably only the Justice Dept who could do anything about it, and they have never filed a single case, ever.

But to the overall issue you keep avoiding, who exactly do you think would retain any profit from a PBC event? If your answer is Haymon, then you are acknowledging that he is indeed violating the Ali Act.

The overall issue you keep avoiding is that if your claims are true, why weren't they discovered in the discovery phase?

The main reason I predicted Haymon would win this case is because of his previous success as a businessman. So let's say Haymon is in violation of the Ali Act but legally he's covered his ass so there is no way to prove he's in violation of the Ali Act. I'm wondering why would you think he wouldn't legally cover is ass when he's been a successful businessman and there was hundreds of millions of dollars at stake? You really thought a guy as successful and smart as Haymon would've overlooked a way to circumvent the Ali Act and be tripped up by it? You don't become as successful as he is by not covering your ass legally.

Everyone knows Arum is in violation of the Ali Act but everyone also expects him to cover his all legally. Haymon is a product of the soft bigotry of lowered expectations in boxing (and business in general). No one ever saw him becoming this successful because they didn't expect a black man to be as smart and savvy as he is. That's the key to most successful black people in America. The expectations of us are so low that instead of complaining about them we exploit them. I love being underestimated and will even play into it for my advantage. When he got into boxing they ignored his innovations in concert promoting. The biggest being the hand off of concerts from regional promoter to regional promoter to becoming one nationwide promoter. Sound familiar?

[snoopymiller]

Onepunch doesnt get it and likely will never get it.

Unless those "facts" contribute to the detriment of fighter treatment/compensation ... no reasonable judge or jury would EVER consider them as wrong doings.

SMFH with these mental midgets

[OnePunch]

The overall issue you keep avoiding is that if your claims are true, why weren't they discovered in the discovery phase?

The main reason I predicted Haymon would win this case is because of his previous success as a businessman. So let's say Haymon is in violation of the Ali Act but legally he's covered his ass so there is no way to prove he's in violation of the Ali Act. I'm wondering why would you think he wouldn't legally cover is ass when he's been a successful businessman and there was hundreds of millions of dollars at stake? You really thought a guy as successful and smart as Haymon would've overlooked a way to circumvent the Ali Act and be tripped up by it? You don't become as successful as he is by not covering your ass legally.

Everyone knows Arum is in violation of the Ali Act but everyone also expects him to cover his all legally. Haymon is a product of the soft bigotry of lowered expectations in boxing (and business in general). No one ever saw him becoming this successful because they didn't expect a black man to be as smart and savvy as he is. That's the key to most successful black people in America. The expectations of us are so low that instead of complaining about them we exploit them. I love being underestimated and will even play into it for my advantage. When he got into boxing they ignored his innovations in concert promoting. The biggest being the hand off of concerts from regional promoter to regional promoter to becoming one nationwide promoter. Sound familiar?

Im not a psychologist, so I have no idea what is in his mind. But even a genius can get a wrong number from time to time. Remember all the experts at Lehman Brothers? I wonder what they are doing today?

[boxingitis]

How many fights are on HBO for the first 4 months of the year?

It's pretty safe to say that they are DEFINITELY cutting back on their boxing budget.

And no... Pay-per-view is not HBO dumbass

Suk a deek u ****** ***

[boxingitis]

stars are temporary. HBO has always gone after the biggest stars. but haymon figured out you can lock up all of the opponents, lock up all of the FUTURE stars, long term you can box HBO out of the business. as it is, HBO is forced to focus primarily on WBO champions and foreign talent because haymon is locking up all the WBC/WBA/IBF belts and locking up all the americans.

the haymon coalition can't compete with the HBO coalition if you just compare the 5-10 biggest stars, but the problem for HBO is that haymon's 30th biggest star is bigger than HBO's 11th biggest star. he has the depth. he has more world champions than anyone and he's constantly creating new world champions month after month.

Good feedback, as long as us fans get the best fights, it's all it matters.