Comments Thread For: Judge Rules Against Golden Boy in Its Lawsuit Against Al Haymon

[The Big Dunn]

all I know is.....

Judge ruled against Golden Boy in its lawsuit against Al Haymon

so PBC haters just took another L

we all know why PBC is unpopular, even if most won't admit it

if Haymon managed Pacquiao, PBC would be the best thing since sliced bread

but nope.....





if the argument against PBC was strictly boxing-related..... as-in, Haymon/PBC are bad for the sport because (insert reason here), then fine..... but it's not.....

any monopoly is normally a bad thing..... not sure if the UFC is the best model at all, and not convinced that Haymon will be any better..... but the problem is this.....

1) the current model is fatally flawed.....
* HBO/Arum are vultures, they have to go..... both have PROVEN that they would happily burn the sport to the ground if they could be king of the ashes
* exclusive network contracts are a major problem, further exacerbating the fragmentation caused by having multiple sanctioning bodies.....
* ANYTHING would be better than the current model, which is CLEARLY not heading in the right direction

2) to date, Haymon has been a HUGE success.....
* by all accounts, Haymon is much fairer with his fighters
* the increase in free-to-air boxing is GREAT for the sport

on the other hand, you got guys insisting that Haymon is the savior of boxing..... completely forgetting that Waddell & Reed are not the Salvation Army, nor are they boxing fans.....

exciting times imho

I'm sitting on the fence, to see how this shht plays out.

so far..... PBC > HBO/Arum, hands down

..... but if/when they ever have a monopoly, and Waddell & Reed shareholders start whining..... then we will find out what is more important to PBC, money or boxing.....

..... anyone think it will be boxing ?

Of course they will choose the money. Is there anyone involved in the promotional or managerial side of the sport in it for the love of the sport? I don't think so.

[OnePunch]

Of course they will choose the money. Is there anyone involved in the promotional or managerial side of the sport in it for the love of the sport? I don't think so.

Hey Dunn, speaking of money, our little GGG-Hopkins bet matures next week. Have you chosen the charity you will be donating $100 to?

(and please dont suddenly have amnesia and make me search through year-old threads to post it)

[The Big Dunn]

Hey Dunn, speaking of money, our little GGG-Hopkins bet matures next week. Have you chosen the charity you will be donating $100 to?

(and please dont suddenly have amnesia and make me search through year-old threads to post it)

I had honestly forgotten about this. I remember we made the bet, just not the particulars.

edit: didn't something happen like 2 months after the bet and we discussed it?

[OnePunch]

I had honestly forgotten about this. I remember we made the bet, just not the particulars.

edit: didn't something happen like 2 months after the bet and we discussed it?

the bet was that there would be NO genuine negotiation attempts to actually make the fight. Internet babble is not a genuine negotiation lol. And the loser posts a receipt showing $100 donation to charity

I dont remember anything happening 2 months later, but feel free to refresh my memory if we changed the terms or cancelled it alltogether. I only remembered the bet itself because I set a reminder date in my notebook lol

[The Big Dunn]

the bet was that there would be NO genuine negotiation attempts to actually make the fight. Internet babble is not a genuine negotiation lol. And the loser posts a receipt showing $100 donation to charity

I dont remember anything happening 2 months later, but feel free to refresh my memory if we changed the terms or cancelled it alltogether. I only remembered the bet itself because I set a reminder date in my notebook lol

Ok. I don't think we cancelled it. I thought there was something more than "internet babble" that we discussed.

I am looking for it now, if I lost I will pay. The guys in the fantasy football league will verify that.

[OnePunch]

Ok. I don't think we cancelled it. I thought there was something more than "internet babble" that we discussed.

I am looking for it now, if I lost I will pay. The guys in the fantasy football league will verify that.

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[The Big Dunn]

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No worries. I may be a pain in the ass and a needling prick some days but I don' squelch on a bet.

[OnePunch]

No worries. I may be a pain in the ass and a needling prick some days but I don' squelch on a bet.

me either. only difference is that im a pain in the as* pretty much EVERY day lol

[The Big Dunn]

me either. Only difference is that im a pain in the as* pretty much every day lol

lol.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[aboutfkntime]

You and I actually agree. But the problem here is that "at the moment" everything is fine and dandy with the fighters, because Santa Al is running around with Waddell's checkbook being the "irrational player", so people are inclined to overlook the concerns about how his model operates. But at some point that faucet will run dry, and he HAS to transition to a more "rational" model. What happens then? Are fighters going to be happy with some sort of UFC type payscale? Because thats the only way it could ever be sustainable. He would need network content deals in the hundreds of millions of dollars per year in order to not only keep his existing roster busy, but to expand as well.

Where we disagree is if the Act needs a rework. It doesnt. What it "needs" is to be enforced.

yea, that's why I'm sitting on the fence to see how this stuff plays out