Comments Thread For: Judge Rules Against Golden Boy in Its Lawsuit Against Al Haymon

[snoopymiller]

notice folks that terry was forced to ignore all of my points. his argument has no merit. his wackadoodle conspiracy theory has no supporting proof or evidence.

terry is accusing haymon of the widespread massive defrauding of hundreds of fighters, based on nothing other than his self authored fan fiction. the facts do not support his position. he's just forced to live in this fantasy world to help cope with the fact that he lost hundreds of thousands of dollars pretending to be in the boxing business and now has to post his sob stories from his sister's basement.

very sad.

He's a small minded loser... the prototypical obsolete boxing promoter.

It's at least entertaining to see a person be so blatantly wrong.

He will be crying even louder in 2020 when HBO gets rid of boxing altogether and the takeover is complete.

[OnePunch]

notice folks that terry was forced to ignore all of my points. his argument has no merit. his wackadoodle conspiracy theory has no supporting proof or evidence.

terry is accusing haymon of the widespread massive defrauding of hundreds of fighters, based on nothing other than his self authored fan fiction. the facts do not support his position. he's just forced to live in this fantasy world to help cope with the fact that he lost hundreds of thousands of dollars pretending to be in the boxing business and now has to post his sob stories from his sister's basement.

very sad.

still playing to the crowd, trolling for acceptance? Sad little man.

Ive posted plenty of times what I feel are his violations. You simply reply with ****** **** about PPV upsides, even though there has never been a PBC event on ppv. Or you babble about HBO WCB, even though there has never been a single PBC event on HBO. Or you babble about premium cable events not frequently taking losses, yet the vast majority of PBC events are time buys on lower tier channels and have nothing to do with "premium" cable events. Deflect. Deflect. Deflect. Or Insult. Insult. Insult. Thats all you've got you pathetic loser.

lol clown. Now go interrupt your big multi-million dollar business meeting to reply. LOLOL

[original zero]

Ive posted plenty of times what I feel are his violations.

but the violations are in your imagination. you haven't posted any proof or evidence. it's just a conspiracy theory you invented.

You simply reply with ****** **** about PPV upsides, even though there has never been a PBC event on ppv. Or you babble about HBO WCB, even though there has never been a single PBC event on HBO. Or you babble about premium cable events not frequently taking losses, yet the vast majority of PBC events are time buys on lower tier channels and have nothing to do with "premium" cable events.

because you are insane, you acted like it was unheard of for a fighter to be paid more than his contracted guarantee. even though it is very very common. i listed ppv upside as an example, but there are countless examples like foreign rights, sponsorships, etc. so if you're going to accuse haymon of massive widespread fraud and pocketing that money for himself, you should admit you have no proof and that it's your personal conspiracy theory.

PBC time buys are the minority of their events now, not the majority. because you are insane, you've created a false reality to boost your silly conspiracy theory.

you're a simple minded fool that was fleeced out of hundreds of thousands of dollars because you were a loser desperate to fit in. we bled you dry and then kicked you to the curb.

to make yourself feel better, you must pretend that haymon is guilty of hundreds of felonies, even though you have no proof.

like you said, post proof or shut the **** up. nobody cares about you whining and crying from your sister's basement terry.

[OnePunch]

like you said, post proof or shut the **** up. nobody cares about you whining and crying from your sister's basement terry.

well its obvious that YOU do, or you wouldn't keep excusing yourself from all your big shot big time multi-billion dollar business meetings to come back here and check for replies.

here you go. just pretend this is you and Haymon. It might help soothe the pain of your utter failure at life......

[original zero]

terry thank you for the meme, but after 44 pages, can you finally post your proof that haymon is violating the ali act?

[OnePunch]

terry thank you for the meme, but after 44 pages, can you finally post your proof that haymon is violating the ali act?

he has a financial interest in the promotional activities of his fighters. You said it yourself, Haymon sets a cap on how much the promoter can earn. That means Haymon controls any potential profit that exceeds that "cap", which is against the law, whether he keeps it, gives it to the fighters, or donates it to The Sisters of St Francis of Assisi. It doesnt matter. But its been beat to death. We disagree on our interpretation of what he is doing. Let it go, because it just makes you look more and more pathetic each time you post.

Look, the dude aint gonna hire you, and probably wouldnt date you either. Move on in life.

[original zero]

he has a financial interest in the promotional activities of his fighters.

proof! where's the proof! it's just your personal looney bin conspiracy theory. you have NO PROOF that haymon is pocketing money from his fighters' events beyond taking a management commission.

You said it yourself, Haymon sets a cap on how much the promoter can earn. That means Haymon controls any potential profit that exceeds that "cap"

no it doesn't mean that at all. proof! where's the proof! it's just your personal looney bin conspiracy theory. you have NO PROOF that haymon is pocketing money from his fighters' events beyond taking a management commission.

[OnePunch]

proof! where's the proof! it's just your personal looney bin conspiracy theory. you have NO PROOF that haymon is pocketing money from his fighters' events beyond taking a management commission.




no it doesn't mean that at all. proof! where's the proof! it's just your personal looney bin conspiracy theory. you have NO PROOF that haymon is pocketing money from his fighters' events beyond taking a management commission.

uhmmm, what exactly do you think happens to any profit that exceeds the cap of what the "promoter" is "allowed" to make? And WHO decides where that extra money goes? We've already established that the "promoter" doesnt get it, and doesnt get to decide where it goes. Does it magically disappear?

You seem to really be having trouble grasping this, so I'll try r-e-a-l- s-l-o-w

IT DOESNT MATTER IF HAYMON KEEPS THE EXTRA PROFIT, GIVES IT TO THE FIGHTERS, DONATES IT TO CHARITY, OR BETS IT ALL ON SODA POP IN THE 5TH AT AQUEDUCT. HE DOESNT HAVE TO "STEAL" IT. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT HE CONTROLS WHERE IT GOES IS AGAINST THE LAW.

And you keep saying "proof proof" like a friggin parrot. Prove what? The model is what it is. The facts are right in front of your nose. 44 pages and you still cant outline what happens to any profit that exceeds the salary cap Haymon sets for the "promoter". Why cant you answer such a simple question?


And please tell us all what college you went to (if any) so we can all let friends and relatives know to stay away.

[original zero]

uhmmm, what exactly do you think happens to any profit that exceeds the cap of what the "promoter" is "allowed" to make? And WHO decides where that extra money goes? We've already established that the "promoter" doesnt get it, and doesnt get to decide where it goes. Does it magically disappear?

The manager negotiates on behalf of the fighter for the fighter to receive the largest piece of the pie possible and then takes a commission. You're accusing Haymon of sidestepping the talent/manager relationship and skimming that money off the top and pocketing it. But you don't have any proof or evidence. It's just a conspiracy theory you invented.

Just be honest. Be a man. Admit you have no proof and it's just fan fiction.

The old paradigm was to cap what fighters could make so the promoter could keep as much as possible. Haymon flipped the script and capped what the promoters could make so the fighters could keep as much as possible. Which is why so many fighters want him as their manager.

You're accusing him of massive widespread fraud, stealing from all of those fighters, and committing hundreds of crimes.

So, do you have proof or not? If not, admit it's a conspiracy theory you created. Why is that unreasonable?

IT DOESNT MATTER IF HAYMON KEEPS THE EXTRA PROFIT, GIVES IT TO THE FIGHTERS, DONATES IT TO CHARITY, OR BETS IT ALL ON SODA POP IN THE 5TH AT AQUEDUCT. HE DOESNT HAVE TO "STEAL" IT. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT HE CONTROLS WHERE IT GOES IS AGAINST THE LAW.

He negotiates on behalf of his client so the client receives as much as possible. No, it is not against the law for a manager to negotiate on behalf of his fighter for his fighter to receive additional revenue. This is the greatest proof yet of your insanity.

And you keep saying "proof proof" like a friggin parrot. Prove what? The model is what it is.

You have no idea what the model is. Because you are insane, you dreamed up an alternate reality and in your mind, you pretend the model is something that it isn't.

The facts are right in front of your nose. 44 pages and you still cant outline what happens to any profit that exceeds the salary cap Haymon sets for the "promoter". Why cant you answer such a simple question?

Question has been answered over and over. You just don't like the answer, so you retreat to your psycho bubble. Manager negotiates on behalf of his client for his client to receive the lion's share by limiting the promoter's share. Very simple. Common sense.

But you continue to insist that Haymon is stealing from his fighters by directly pocketing some of the revenue streams, instead of making sure his client gets paid, and then taking a commission.

So, since you admittedly aren't basing your position on any evidence, and are simply basing your position on your own bias, your position is ******ed.

And please tell us all what college you went to (if any) so we can all let friends and relatives know to stay away.

LOL trying to take this route won't turn out well for you. I started college (Nova Southeastern University) when I was 11 years old. We are not even in the same intellectual stratosphere. If you want to compare intellectual credentials, it won't be pretty for you. But what's germane to the conversation is that you've lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in the fight business and I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars in the fight business.

Which is why you're incredibly bitter and obsessively negative, while I'm able to just stick to the facts. FACT: You said Haymon's management contracts are kosher.

So, for your conspiracy theory to be true, that would mean he's breaching all of his management contracts, committing widespread fraud, ripping off all of his fighters, etc. But what does it say about you as a human if you believe all of that without any proof or evidence?

It says you're ****ing crazy.

[OnePunch]

The manager negotiates on behalf of the fighter for the fighter to receive the largest piece of the pie possible and then takes a commission. You're accusing Haymon of sidestepping the talent/manager relationship and skimming that money off the top and pocketing it. But you don't have any proof or evidence. It's just a conspiracy theory you invented.

Just be honest. Be a man. Admit you have no proof and it's just fan fiction.

The old paradigm was to cap what fighters could make so the promoter could keep as much as possible. Haymon flipped the script and capped what the promoters could make so the fighters could keep as much as possible. Which is why so many fighters want him as their manager.

You're accusing him of massive widespread fraud, stealing from all of those fighters, and committing hundreds of crimes.

So, do you have proof or not? If not, admit it's a conspiracy theory you created. Why is that unreasonable?




He negotiates on behalf of his client so the client receives as much as possible. No, it is not against the law for a manager to negotiate on behalf of his fighter for his fighter to receive additional revenue. This is the greatest proof yet of your insanity.




You have no idea what the model is. Because you are insane, you dreamed up an alternate reality and in your mind, you pretend the model is something that it isn't.




Question has been answered over and over. You just don't like the answer, so you retreat to your psycho bubble. Manager negotiates on behalf of his client for his client to receive the lion's share by limiting the promoter's share. Very simple. Common sense.

But you continue to insist that Haymon is stealing from his fighters by directly pocketing some of the revenue streams, instead of making sure his client gets paid, and then taking a commission.

So, since you admittedly aren't basing your position on any evidence, and are simply basing your position on your own bias, your position is ******ed.




LOL trying to take this route won't turn out well for you. I started college (Nova Southeastern University) when I was 11 years old. We are not even in the same intellectual stratosphere. If you want to compare intellectual credentials, it won't be pretty for you. But what's germane to the conversation is that you've lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in the fight business and I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars in the fight business.

Which is why you're incredibly bitter and obsessively negative, while I'm able to just stick to the facts. FACT: You said Haymon's management contracts are kosher.

So, for your conspiracy theory to be true, that would mean he's breaching all of his management contracts, committing widespread fraud, ripping off all of his fighters, etc. But what does it say about you as a human if you believe all of that without any proof or evidence?

It says you're ****ing crazy.

its actually scary that someone who claims to have the credentials that you do is as woefully ignorant as you are.

Dude, there is a LEGAL difference in the way a "promoter" and the way a "manager" can operate. You cant seem to wrap your feeble mind around that concept. This is SOOOOO simple.

The fact that Haymon can limit the "promoters" salary, means that it is Haymon, and NOT the "promoter", that is in control of the event revenue. That is against the law. Plain and simple, and the debate really can end right there. Has nothing to do with if he's "stealing" it. I never accused him of that, and dont know and dont care if he is or isnt. It has nothing to do with my position. He could be giving every penny of the "profit" to the fighters for all I know. But LEGALLY it doesnt matter. If he wants to control event revenue, then he should go get a promoters license, instead of just renting someone elses.


And I dont know why you obsess so much over money. Leads me to believe you probably dont have very much, since its usually the pretenders who like to talk like big shots. And so what if I had an extra 20 or 25 grand a year to piss away doing fights and having fun? Ive had experiences and developed relationships from it that a clown like you couldnt buy in 5 lifetimes. And its probably less money than I spend at the blackjack tables in any given year. And it was MY money, not someone elses. So if I chose to piss it away doing fights that my business. Bottom feeders like you probably wouldnt understand a concept like that, since you're too worried about trying to make a nickel so people will think you're somebody.