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  • #61
    Originally posted by Clegg View Post
    Wasn't Gamboa linked to buying PEDs before when a company was busted? Or something along those lines. Not sure if he gets a pass or it wasn't 100% proven, or just that he's had no big wins in the time since it happened.



    http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/th...ecords-6550882

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    • #62
      Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
      I remember that Mosley was one of the athletes in the BALCO scandal. Balco was created by Victor Conte and he worked with Angel “Memo” Heredia for a few years. Mosley was one of their client. I think Mosley felt safe cause BALCO had been around for many years and Conte had created PED's that you couldn't get busted for. Once BALCO was exposed and fell apart Mosley had to come clean.

      Patrick Arnold designed the drugs, most famously 'the clean' and 'the clear'. He's the guy who first started making andro for the US market too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Arnold

      He's like the Godfather of PEDs in the US.

      He hooked up with Conte around 2000. Conte used to run one of those health shops that sells all sorts of bull**** alternative medicines. Conte had built up a good client list of athletes and he was looking for someone who could make undetectable PEDs.

      After Balco he did three months in one of those country club prisons for millonaires. Think Conte did something similar. Morgantown was the one they sent Arnold to.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Beercules View Post
        What was the alias Holyfield used? Evan Fields? idiot


        However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield—October 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, was dialed

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        • #64
          Originally posted by -PBP- View Post


          However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield—October 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, was dialed
          Lmfaoooooo

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          • #65
            Oh wow

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            • #66
              Salido is another one. I doubt he just used once in 2006 and then stayed clean ever since.

              And it's another one where even supposedly unbiased sources publish BS info, which is what leads to fans believing nonsense and falling for lame excuses. From boxrec

              Salido tested positive for the steroid nandrolone after the fight. However, Salido had a follow-up blood test the day after at LabCorp, a nationally recognized blood lab, and the findings were negative of any steroids. It's important to clarify that the substance nandrolone naturally appears in the human body when it is subjected to demanding workouts. Until today it's unknown, why Salido didn't get back the belt after the 2nd. test came negative.
              The site is basically saying Salido must be clean because he passed a drugs test the day after his positive test was revealed, and that nandrolone test results are meaningless and anyone who exercises would fail a test and it's a big mystery why Salido didn't get the belt back.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
                A thread for the guys who get virtually no shit from fans for having used PEDs.

                I'll start:

                Evander Holyfield
                Shane Mosley
                Tyson Fury
                Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by -PBP- View Post
                  However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield—October 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, was dialed
                  Fuck me that's hilarious. He wouldn't have made much of a secret agent

                  The last part of that paragraph is brilliant too:

                  When the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription was dialed, Holyfield answered.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
                    Clenbuterol.

                    USADA:

                    (1) told no one except Golden Boy until 3 days before the fight where they also told the commission, and

                    (2) kept testing Morales in the hope that he would come up clean.

                    Unbelievable stuff. As bad as anything Texas did with Chavez Jr.
                    USADA finally addressed it in their dispute with Hauser during the Mayweather IV-gate. They gave a somewhat reasonable explanation. USADA kept on testing even after the positive result because the WADA lab hadn't informed USADA yet seeing how they're separate en******. No more tests were conducted after USADA was told, and they informed the commission the next day. The samples sent to the WADA lab don't have names, so even they didn't know whose sample was positive at the time. Apparently it's possible to fast track the results by paying more, which is where USADA/Golden Boy ****ed up. But at the very least there was no nefarious attempt by USADA to cover it.

                    http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by VatoMulatto View Post
                      A lot of times it's the most outspoken people who are the biggest cheaters. Tyson always talks about steroids in boxing accusing fighters (AJ Wlad Haye) I'm always a bit skeptical when it comes to people who love to accuse others but can't come up with any evidence.
                      It's a projection of their own worst actions onto others - not to mention a good way of making it seem like you would never, ever do it yourself, being that you are so openly against it. See: Floyd Mayweather - The Lance Armstrong of Boxing.


                      Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
                      Francisco Vargas got popped before the Salido fight but it went ahead anyway. My personal theory is that Salido was on the juice too so he didn't give a ****.
                      Same for Pacquiao against JMM in their fourth fight, I think. He didn't complain afterwards. Live by the sword etc.

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