People keep asking why Jacobs isnt enrolled with VADA..HE DOESNT HAVE TO

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #91
    Originally posted by tokon
    However, a truly clean fighter would just sign up anyway . . . .
    I don't believe that at all.

    Anyone paying attention to drug testing knows the supplement industry is crooked as f#ck & there have been numerous instances of guys who've popped for banned substances that they inadvertently took cuz they were in supplements that they weren't supposed to be in. This has been proven by independent testing to the same batch number of a product combat sports athletes have had in their possession.

    Plus popping for a banned substance, taken inadvertently or not, can damage your image & these commissions don't seem to give a f#ck about logic with this sorta sh^t. If I had taken any medicine or supplement in the last x months I'd 100% have a PED/banned substance test prior to joining any VADA or USADA testing program for a fight to best protect my own career & image even being 100% clean to the best of my knowledge. And honestly just in case I think I'd get a clean test pre-signing up for testing regardless cuz who knows if there is more tainted meat or food products out there like the Mexican meat stuff that I wasn't aware of.

    Thats the problem. I think there are 100% some fighters (not most by any means, but some) who've come up dirty, who've never taken a PED/banned substance knowingly cuz the banned substance list isn't the most logical list first off, but also because supplement companies add banned substances in low dosages to their products to help non-pro athletes, who are 99.9% of their customer base, see positive results that'll keep them buying their product(s).

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      #92
      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
      All fighters, especially those fighting for world titles, should be required to do drug testing for a minimum of 4-6 months before the fight.
      If you are going to do testing you need to do what the UFC is doing with 24/7/365 testing. They've caught about 30 odd guys with banned substances in their system since they implemented that program about 18 or so months ago. And very few of those guys were in training camp for a specific fight.

      Most guys legit using banned substances to improve their performance right now in boxing aren't doing it in the lead in to a upcoming fight. They would be doing it in when they don't have a fight scheduled if they got an ounce of intelligence.

      And the really f#cked up thing most people don't even understand or grasp yet is that some PEDs have been proven to give you PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS. So if you took certain PEDs 6 months ago during a layoff or 8 years ago when no one was doing any testing like they are today your body is going to have already changed for the better & made you a better athlete despite you p^ssing clean all day every day.

      This PED sh^t is more of a losing battle then people wanna believe which is why I'm ultimately in favor of PED usage to give us the best possible athletes our science can create, And hell man guys will be fighting via VR environments to no physical damage to their real bodies in like 2 or 3 decades anyway probably so cats will for sure be PED'd up to the gills + have DNA/gene improvements that'll make the fat ugly guy in your corner cubicle at work look like an adonis with a d^ck that'd make Alexkid envious.

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      • Tom Cruise
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        #93
        Originally posted by Mr.MojoRisin'
        Doners don't give that much either.
        I just checked and they take a pint (in the UK).

        Whereas a blood test isnt much more than a tablespoon

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        • Mr.MojoRisin'
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          #94
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise
          I just checked and they take a pint (in the UK).

          Whereas a blood test isnt much more than a tablespoon
          Really? I figured they would take much more than that but not as much as someone donating blood.

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            #95
            Originally posted by bigdramashow
            is this how we are going to play it lol. Bad thing is it to expect fighters to participate in stringent drug testing? Would be interested to hear if it was the other way round and it was golovkin not participating...
            you just knew some people were gonna find an excuse for Jacobs, make it seem all okay. People used to suspect Gennady for starting testing too late, but it's okay for Jacobs not to be enrolled in testing whatsoever, in any fight. It's a good thing I stopped trying to make sense of NSB.

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            • gmc_rfc_06
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              #96
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              If you are going to do testing you need to do what the UFC is doing with 24/7/365 testing. They've caught about 30 odd guys with banned substances in their system since they implemented that program about 18 or so months ago. And very few of those guys were in training camp for a specific fight.

              Most guys legit using banned substances to improve their performance right now in boxing aren't doing it in the lead in to a upcoming fight. They would be doing it in when they don't have a fight scheduled if they got an ounce of intelligence.

              And the really f#cked up thing most people don't even understand or grasp yet is that some PEDs have been proven to give you PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS. So if you took certain PEDs 6 months ago during a layoff or 8 years ago when no one was doing any testing like they are today your body is going to have already changed for the better & made you a better athlete despite you p^ssing clean all day every day.

              This PED sh^t is more of a losing battle then people wanna believe which is why I'm ultimately in favor of PED usage to give us the best possible athletes our science can create, And hell man guys will be fighting via VR environments to no physical damage to their real bodies in like 2 or 3 decades anyway probably so cats will for sure be PED'd up to the gills + have DNA/gene improvements that'll make the fat ugly guy in your corner cubicle at work look like an adonis with a d^ck that'd make Alexkid envious.
              Absolutely, that's why I believe a minimum of 6 months should be a requirement.

              Most guys these days have 2 fights a year, that would basically make the testing year round. Guys who take layoffs or injury breaks should be tested during those breaks also.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Garcia's Dad
                I think pretty much all boxers are on the juice. The only ones that get popped are the ones who are ******/careless enough. Jacobs is on it, as is Golovkin, IMO.

                However, it is amusing how Mayweather's little idiot groupies have dropped the act about caring PEDs since their hero made them look utterly ****** yet again with the IV use. Biggest red flag ever and they know it.

                PED crusading is no longer at the forefront of theirs or Mayweathers mind anymore. It just was for 5 years when everyone wanted a Pacquiao fight. You idiots cried for 5 years.

                So please, Larry, spare me the absolute idiocy of now defending Jacobs.
                This is the perfect example of what is wrong with this site. Guys like this try to cover their hypocrisy by invoking Floyd's name and over exaggerating , if not outright lying, about how all Floyd fans feel based on the opinion of one Floyd fan.

                Guys like this poster for years claimed that drug testing wasn't needed when Floyd suggested Manny test. Drug testing was for cowards and a sign of fear.

                Now suddenly they see the merit of drug testing and accuse any Haymon or Floyd associated fighter of using if they don't test after years of absolving Manny of any responsibility to test.

                Jacobs absolutely should make the choice to enroll in VADA. Jacobs looks bad for not testing same as Manny did all those years ago. The only difference is you were ok with Manny not testing because you wanted Floyd to lose at any cost.

                Its not that Floyd fans stopped caring about PED's. it's that guys like you suddenly did.

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                • Kigali
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                  I just checked and they take a pint (in the UK).

                  Whereas a blood test isnt much more than a tablespoon

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                  • Kigali
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    This is the perfect example of what is wrong with this site. Guys like this try to cover their hypocrisy by invoking Floyd's name and over exaggerating , if not outright lying, about how all Floyd fans feel based on the opinion of one Floyd fan.

                    Guys like this poster for years claimed that drug testing wasn't needed when Floyd suggested Manny test. Drug testing was for cowards and a sign of fear.

                    Now suddenly they see the merit of drug testing and accuse any Haymon or Floyd associated fighter of using if they don't test after years of absolving Manny of any responsibility to test.

                    Jacobs absolutely should make the choice to enroll in VADA. Jacobs looks bad for not testing same as Manny did all those years ago. The only difference is you were ok with Manny not testing because you wanted Floyd to lose at any cost.

                    Its not that Floyd fans stopped caring about PED's. it's that guys like you suddenly did.

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                    • Tom Cruise
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Kigali
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                      Thats in the UK, in the US...

                      The average adult has about 10 pints of blood in his body. Roughly 1 pint is given during a donation.
                      Blood donations are essential to the blood supply available for patients in need. Get the facts and see how you can help.

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