People keep asking why Jacobs isnt enrolled with VADA..HE DOESNT HAVE TO

[Tom Cruise]

This is the perfect example of what is wrong with this site. Guys like this try to cover their hypocrisy by invoking Floyd's name and over exaggerating , if not outright lying, about how all Floyd fans feel based on the opinion of one Floyd fan.

Guys like this poster for years claimed that drug testing wasn't needed when Floyd suggested Manny test. Drug testing was for cowards and a sign of fear.

Now suddenly they see the merit of drug testing and accuse any Haymon or Floyd associated fighter of using if they don't test after years of absolving Manny of any responsibility to test.

Jacobs absolutely should make the choice to enroll in VADA. Jacobs looks bad for not testing same as Manny did all those years ago. The only difference is you were ok with Manny not testing because you wanted Floyd to lose at any cost.

Its not that Floyd fans stopped caring about PED's. it's that guys like you suddenly did.

Hypocrisy on both sides here, TBD.

Par for the course on NSB

[The Big Dunn]

Hypocrisy on both sides here, TBD.

Par for the course on NSB

Individuals are being hypocritical for sure. But lets stop lumping every Floyd fan in the same boat as a means of justifying an individual's hypocrisy. Not every Floyd fan shares Larry's opinion. Those that wanted PED's out of the sport are criticizing Jacobs for this.

Whatever you think about Floyd, his request for PED testing was spot on. Whatever you think of Manny, his refusal to test must be judged the same way as everyone else who refused.

Guys like him never gave a damn about drug testing. While we are all allowed to change our opinions about the topic, it just is annoying to see guys like that advocate for something he once equated to cowardliness.

[Mequetrefe]

PED's wont help u in the chin department so no concern here.

[stephenmc]

Would he not automatically be tested after the fight anyway??

[_Maxi]

Its not that Floyd fans stopped caring about PED's. it's that guys like you suddenly did.

Most Floyd fans didn't have a problem with Floyd using an IV night before a fight. Or with Floyd never doing VADA even though VADA has been way better and has catched the more dopers in boxing. So...

Anyway, this is about Jacobs and Golovkin, not Pacquiao and Mayweather.

Golovkin is doing 365 VADA testing.
Jacobs is not answering questions and blocking people for asking about VADA on his social networks.

[_Maxi]

Would he not automatically be tested after the fight anyway??

So what? testing needs to be done for months. PEDs get cleared out of the system after a few hours/days/weeks depending on which PED we are talking about. But the effects remain. For example if you do an 8 week steroids cycle to gain power and train harder, you can come clean two weeks later. That's why testing needs to be done for months before a fight.

[The Big Dunn]

Most Floyd fans didn't have a problem with Floyd using an IV night before a fight. Or with Floyd never doing VADA even though VADA has been way better and has catched the more dopers in boxing. So...

Anyway, this is about Jacobs and Golovkin, not Pacquiao and Mayweather.

Golovkin is doing 365 VADA testing.
Jacobs is not answering questions and blocking people for asking about VADA on his social networks.

Thats ******ed. Maxi, he tested negative for PED's before and after the IV use. If you still will not factor that into your equation, so be it.

I agree, which is why I was disgusted that the initial poster I responded to brought them up. He did so IMO to justify his flip in how he sees drug testing.

I am aware of this and I commented about it in my initial post. We seem to agree that Jacobs should be taking VADA even though he isn't required to.

So what exactly is your problem with my posts in this thread?

[_Maxi]

Thats ******ed. Maxi, he tested negative for PED's before and after the IV use. If you still will not factor that into your equation, so be it.

I agree, which is why I was disgusted that the initial poster I responded to brought them up. He did so IMO to justify his flip in how he sees drug testing.

I am aware of this and I commented about it in my initial post. We seem to agree that Jacobs should be taking VADA even though he isn't required to.

So what exactly is your problem with my posts in this thread?

It's not ******ed. Getting IVs is banned for a reason. It's not like doing a test before and after the IV intake erases it's prohibition. We have PED gurus like Victor Conte saying that an IV like that should be prohibited. But let's not talk about that, it's another different topic. I'm answering because you don't say it's questionable, you say it's ******. And not, it's not ******. You might not agree with me but if a PED guru is on my side of the dispute then you can't say it's ******ed. Say that you don't agree and present your arguments but that's all.

Another thing that is wrong is that many people say that we used to say that drug testing was for cowards. Hell... I wasn't even posting here back in the day. I wasn't even watching boxing 5 years ago, and I was always pro drug testing. Let's not deflect like that please. Jacobs should do the testing and Mayweather fans should ask for it too if they are coherent.

[The Big Dunn]

It's not ******ed. Getting IVs is banned for a reason. It's not like doing a test before and after the IV intake erases it's prohibition. We have PED gurus like Victor Conte saying that an IV like that should be prohibited. But let's not talk about that, it's another different topic. I'm answering because you don't say it's questionable, you say it's ******. And not, it's not ******. You might not agree with me but if a PED guru is on my side of the dispute then you can't say it's ******ed. Say that you don't agree and present your arguments but that's all.

Another thing that is wrong is that many people say that we used to say that drug testing was for cowards. Hell... I wasn't even posting here back in the day. I wasn't even watching boxing 5 years ago, and I was always pro drug testing. Let's not deflect like that please. Jacobs should do the testing and Mayweather fans should ask for it too if they are coherent.

You didn't post all the facts, which is why I labeled it ******ed.

A PED guru isn't on your side Maxi. You are taking a general statement he made years prior and applying it to this situation. That lacks validity. Besides, we agree that this isn't the topic of this thread.

As for this thread, do you have any problem with my opinion on Jacobs not doing VADA?

[_Maxi]

You didn't post all the facts, which is why I labeled it ******ed.

A PED guru isn't on your side Maxi. You are taking a general statement he made years prior and applying it to this situation. That lacks validity. Besides, we agree that this isn't the topic of this thread.

As for this thread, do you have any problem with my opinion on Jacobs not doing VADA?

Why do you say Victor Conte doesn't agree with me reg Mayweathers IV when he clearly does?

Victor Conte:

“I don’t get it,” Conte says. “There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use is clearly against the rules. Also, from a medical point of view, if they’re administering what they said they did, it doesn’t make sense to me. There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you’d have far greater benefits. It’s very su****ious to me. I can tell you that IV drugs clear an athlete’s system more quickly than drugs that are administered by subcutaneous injection. So why did USADA make this decision? Why did they grant something that’s prohibited? In my view, that’s something federal law enforcement officials should be asking Travis Tygart.”