People keep asking why Jacobs isnt enrolled with VADA..HE DOESNT HAVE TO

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #111
    Originally posted by _Maxi
    Why do you say Victor Conte doesn't agree with me reg Mayweathers IV when he clearly does?

    Victor Conte:

    “I don’t get it,” Conte says. “There are strict criteria for the granting of a TUE. You don’t hand them out like Halloween candy. And this sort of IV use is clearly against the rules. Also, from a medical point of view, if they’re administering what they said they did, it doesn’t make sense to me. There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you’d have far greater benefits. It’s very su****ious to me. I can tell you that IV drugs clear an athlete’s system more quickly than drugs that are administered by subcutaneous injection. So why did USADA make this decision? Why did they grant something that’s prohibited? In my view, that’s something federal law enforcement officials should be asking Travis Tygart.”
    Maxi, not the thread for this. We agree that Jacobs should be taking testing even though he isn't obligated to. I see no need to keep discussing Floyd.

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    • _Maxi
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      #112
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Maxi, not the thread for this. We agree that Jacobs should be taking testing even though he isn't obligated to. I see no need to keep discussing Floyd.
      Let's not discuss Floyd anymore and I hope no one brings back that topic because is has nothing to do with the Golovkin Jacobs situation and it's just a deflection tactic by some posters.

      1) Do you agree that Jacobs should be obligated to do VADA as well as Golovkin is?
      2) Do you agree that Jacobs team should answer questions regarding VADA testing and not blocking people from social networks for respectfully asking about it?

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #113
        Originally posted by _Maxi
        Let's not discuss Floyd anymore and I hope no one brings back that topic because is has nothing to do with the Golovkin Jacobs situation and it's just a deflection tactic by some posters.

        1) Do you agree that Jacobs should be obligated to do VADA as well as Golovkin is?
        2) Do you agree that Jacobs team should answer questions regarding VADA testing and not blocking people from social networks for respectfully asking about it?
        1) As I staed in my initial post Not obligated but he should have made the choice to take testing even though he isn't required to IMO.

        2)IMO he should answer any questions that are legitimate. So if you ask him about VADA respectfully then IMO he should answer. If you go at him like some of the scummiest NSB trolls do, well then, no.

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        • Jubei
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          #114
          So Team Jacobs made sure GGG is doing VADA while their own fighter is not being tested at all. Jacobs could be training on full PED cycle since he isnt tested prefight at all. People defending this is why NSB sucks nowadays.

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          • _Maxi
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            #115
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            1) As I staed in my initial post Not obligated but he should have made the choice to take testing even though he isn't required to IMO.

            2)IMO he should answer any questions that are legitimate. So if you ask him about VADA respectfully then IMO he should answer. If you go at him like some of the scummiest NSB trolls do, well then, no.
            1) Why do you think he shouldn't be forced? why should it be "up to him"? I think that most fighters would choose not to if they had the option to choose. But they should be forced to it.
            2) One guy posted here two days ago that Jacobs' team banned him from his Instagram account after he asked respectfully if Jacobs had already started VADA testing. I asked them via Twitter and got no response.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #116
              Originally posted by _Maxi
              1) Why do you think he shouldn't be forced? why should it be "up to him"? I think that most fighters would choose not to if they had the option to choose. But they should be forced to it.
              2) One guy posted here two days ago that Jacobs' team banned him from his Instagram account after he asked respectfully if Jacobs had already started VADA testing. I asked them via Twitter and got no response.
              As a competitor, knowing his opponent is testing, I would think he'd be willing to test. That he isn't says something about him IMO. Forcing him would require a change in the rule, which I doubt you could implement at this late stage. Moving forward, they should change the rules that both fighters have to test.

              Again, it depends on who it was. That could be someone who has a history of trolling and crap. IMO, I don't see why Jacobs team just doesn't come out and say we chose not to because we are not required. If they made the decision based on cost, say so.

              Question, did you give an opinion on Kov not using VADA before the 1st Pascal fight and the other fight he didn't test?

              Please don't support posters that were not alarmed or concerned with Kov not using VADA for and are now having a fit that Jacobs isn't.

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              • stephenmc
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                #117
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                So what? testing needs to be done for months. PEDs get cleared out of the system after a few hours/days/weeks depending on which PED we are talking about. But the effects remain. For example if you do an 8 week steroids cycle to gain power and train harder, you can come clean two weeks later. That's why testing needs to be done for months before a fight.
                If you done an 8 week cycle of steroids, well your balls and what not would prob be shriveled as fck, sure just check their balls and all...
                Been honest I couldn't really give a fck at the moment, I was only asking a question, so take your ped steroid **** argument to someone else who gives a fck....plenty of other whiney ****s on here for you to have your "debate"

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                • krazyn8tive
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                  #118
                  Larry, were you drinking last night?

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                  • _Maxi
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by stephenmc
                    If you done an 8 week cycle of steroids, well your balls and what not would prob be shriveled as fck, sure just check their balls and all...
                    Been honest I couldn't really give a fck at the moment, I was only asking a question, so take your ped steroid **** argument to someone else who gives a fck....plenty of other whiney ****s on here for you to have your "debate"
                    Translation: You like to lick big balls and you are ******ed.

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                    • Eastcoast
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                      #120



                      Pressure from the NSB forum made Jacobs breakdown and sign up. That he's done cycling off his PEDs (this is why Roizer said they needed an extra long training camp).

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