Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: In The Eyes of The People - I Beat Floyd Mayweather

[ADP02]

Such a hateful little midget.

Everyone sees something different in Floyd. I guess that is what you see.

[Kigali]

Everyone sees something different in Floyd. I guess that is what you see.

That's what you are...a bitter little midget that can't let go of Pac's loss to Mayweather.

[travestyny]

What WADA confirms is:
The majority of cases should be treated with fluids and eating. In an emergency type situation, WADA accepts an IV where the person is severely dehydrated and has no time or cannot drink up or the possibility of hyponatremia in which you even now agreed with Nick Diaz that it's crazy talk!

BUT the above was NOT Floyd's case.

Time permitted for that(ie. rehydrating by way of fluids) and we saw Floyd drinking adequately BEFORE the IV. Vital signs were all perfectly normal. So unless Floyd went and ran a marathon after the weigh-in, Floyd was on his way to being rehydrated about 45 minutes after he drank his fluids after the weigh in. You are in agreement that rehydration to an acceptable level occurs quickly.


WADA
"It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature."


So as I told you and you now agree, Floyd could have just drank fluids and 45 minutes later would have been rehydrated or in more severe cases, close to rehydrated. Subject F went from one extreme to another in 1 hour. In Floyd's case, he didn't have to go to those extremes. So then Floyd could have rehydrated in less than 1 hour. Floyd had what, 6 hours to rehydrate? It just does NOT add up no matter how you look at this.




USADA went to see athletes (UFC) to let them know that IV use after weigh-ins are banned. USADA knows that those athletes that they went and talk to were for the most part MUCH MORE DEHYDRATED THAN FLOYD WAS!!! Even Floyd admits to that right after getting the IV. So they cannot but Floyd can?


"I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148... I'm extremely happy with everything undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"

The above was said just after getting an IV!!!!

Why are you still going on with this? We've already discussed this in great detail.

1. WADA NEVER says that it must be an emergency. You know this already.

2. What WADA told the UFC fighters has been the case for quite some time. IV USE IS BANNED WITHOUT A TUE.

3. You've been bringing it up that USADA has disciplined other fighters for IV use, but those cases were NOT the same as Floyd who declared his DESIRE FOR THE USE OF AN IV BEFORE HAVING IT!!! NOT AFTER HAVING IT LIKE THE UFC FIGHTERS YOU MENTIONED. You know this, but you're pretending not to.

4. What the MRO was describing is SEVERE HYPONATREMIA. There are other forms of hyponatremia, and still an IV is the way to go. I'm not saying this is what Mayweather had, but I certainly can't disprove it.

5. Hopefully this is the last time I have to say this. WE DO NOT HAVE MAYWEATHER'S MEDICAL RECORDS. The TUEC approved it, and they were unaware of the applicant whom they were approving it for. THIS IS THE RULE, THAT YOU WANT TO SAY WAS BROKEN JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT HE CHEATED.

6. All of his tests, all undiluted samples, including the sample that had urine from before and after the IV, were CLEAN.

Just let it go already.

[Kigali]

Why are you still going on with this? We've already discussed this in great detail.

1. WADA NEVER says that it must be an emergency. You know this already.

2. What WADA told the UFC fighters has been the case for quite some time. IV USE IS BANNED WITHOUT A TUE.

3. You've been bringing it up that USADA has disciplined other fighters for IV use, but those cases were NOT the same as Floyd who declared his DESIRE FOR THE USE OF AN IV BEFORE HAVING IT!!! NOT AFTER HAVING IT LIKE THE UFC FIGHTERS YOU MENTIONED. You know this, but you're pretending not to.

4. What the MRO was describing is SEVERE HYPONATREMIA. There are other forms of hyponatremia, and still an IV is the way go to. I'm not saying this is what Mayweather had, but I certainly can't disprove it.

5. Hopefully this is the last time I have to say this. WE DO NOT HAVE MAYWEATHER'S MEDICAL RECORDS. The TUEC approved it, and they were unaware of the applicant whom they were approving it for. THIS IS THE RULE, THAT YOU WANT TO SAY WAS BROKEN JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT HE CHEATED.

6. All of his tests, all undiluted samples, including the sample that had urine from before and after the IV, were CLEAN.

Just let it go already.

You laid the hammer down.

[spytactics]

Brian Campbell of ESPN: 117-111 Mayweather
John Cherwa of the Los Angeles Times: 114-114
Tim Dahlberg of the Associated Press: 115-113 Mayweather
Steve Farhood of Showtime: 118-110 Mayweather
Mike Fridley of Sherdog: 119-109 Mayweather
Mike James of the Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Mayweather
Harold Lederman of HBO: 117-111 Mayweather
Jeff Powell of the Daily Mail: 115-115 38
Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Mayweather 39
Dan Rafael of ESPN: 116-112 Mayweather 40
Gary Randall of Sherdog: 114-114
Eric Raskin of ESPN: 116-113 Mayweather
Mike Sloan of Sherdog: 118-110 Mayweather
Marc Livitz of SecondsOut: 117-111 Mayweather

All of them fit in either the 1 2 or 3 category.

[PAC-BOY]

True boxing fans know you won Manny! You don't win a fight by running, hugging, and cheating with IVs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:qqq::qqq::qqq::qqq:

[Bjl12]

Anyone who is seriously defending themselves in this post against the 5 remaining pacFU.CKS is dumber than wood.

Let's move on to KTFO5 when Joe the Plumber outdoes JMM in a fight for the ages...brought to you by TR PPV since no other network cares about this clown after he got 10-2' by the man who was "afraid of him".

Guess that Backne didn't matter after all. Next time more saltwater for Rotator cuffs and maybe some Ariza shakes? Definitely some Maidana lowblows too

[ADP02]

What WADA confirms is:
The majority of cases should be treated with fluids and eating. In an emergency type situation, WADA accepts an IV where the person is severely dehydrated and has no time or cannot drink up or the possibility of hyponatremia in which you even now agreed with Nick Diaz that it's crazy talk!

BUT the above was NOT Floyd's case.

Time permitted for that(ie. rehydrating by way of fluids) and we saw Floyd drinking adequately BEFORE the IV. Vital signs were all perfectly normal. So unless Floyd went and ran a marathon after the weigh-in, Floyd was on his way to being rehydrated about 45 minutes after he drank his fluids after the weigh in. You are in agreement that rehydration to an acceptable level occurs quickly.


WADA
"It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature."


So as I told you and you now agree, Floyd could have just drank fluids and 45 minutes later would have been rehydrated or in more severe cases, close to rehydrated. Subject F went from one extreme to another in 1 hour. In Floyd's case, he didn't have to go to those extremes. So then Floyd could have rehydrated in less than 1 hour. Floyd had what, 6 hours to rehydrate? It just does NOT add up no matter how you look at this.




USADA went to see athletes (UFC) to let them know that IV use after weigh-ins are banned. USADA knows that those athletes that they went and talk to were for the most part MUCH MORE DEHYDRATED THAN FLOYD WAS!!! Even Floyd admits to that right after getting the IV. So they cannot but Floyd can?


"I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148... I'm extremely happy with everything undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather, who invited FightHype.com into his home less than 24 hours before he steps into the ring to face Manny Pacquiao"

The above was said just after getting an IV!!!!

Why are you still going on with this? We've already discussed this in great detail.

1. WADA NEVER says that it must be an emergency. You know this already.

2. What WADA told the UFC fighters has been the case for quite some time. IV USE IS BANNED WITHOUT A TUE.

3. You've been bringing it up that USADA has disciplined other fighters for IV use, but those cases were NOT the same as Floyd who declared his DESIRE FOR THE USE OF AN IV BEFORE HAVING IT!!! NOT AFTER HAVING IT LIKE THE UFC FIGHTERS YOU MENTIONED. You know this, but you're pretending not to.

4. What the MRO was describing is SEVERE HYPONATREMIA. There are other forms of hyponatremia, and still an IV is the way to go. I'm not saying this is what Mayweather had, but I certainly can't disprove it.

5. Hopefully this is the last time I have to say this. WE DO NOT HAVE MAYWEATHER'S MEDICAL RECORDS. The TUEC approved it, and they were unaware of the applicant whom they were approving it for. THIS IS THE RULE, THAT YOU WANT TO SAY WAS BROKEN JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT HE CHEATED.

6. All of his tests, all undiluted samples, including the sample that had urine from before and after the IV, were CLEAN.

Just let it go already.

1.
Actually they do mention that if just mild or moderate then drink fluids. As I posted above.

2. BOTH Floyd and those people declared use of an IV before requesting and receiving a TUE approval.

3. A desire to have it does not mean that they requested a TUE beforehand. The request came 3 weeks after using an IV.
Floyd declared IV was used BEFORE giving his urine sample. Jessica Phillips declared use of an IV BEFORE a test as well.

a) USADA announced today that Jessica Phillips, of Kennesaw, Georgia an athlete in the sport of weightlifting, has accepted a 14-month sanction for her use of a prohibited method.
During an out-of-competition test on April 25, 2016, Phillips, 25, declared the use of an intravenous infusion of non-prohibited substances. A subsequent investigation by USADA revealed that the intravenous infusion received by Phillips was administered in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period under the care of a physician.

intravenous infusions in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period are prohibited – except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. Intravenous infusions or injections received in any other setting require an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).

Phillips period of ineligibility began on April 25, 2016, the date her use was declared. In addition, Phillips has been disqualified from all competitive results obtained on and subsequent to April 25, 2016, including forfeiture of any medals, points, and prizes.


b) During an out-of-competition test on March 25, 2016, Penn declared the use of an intravenous infusion of a non-prohibited substance that was administered by a doctor. A subsequent investigation by USADA revealed that the intravenous infusion received by Penn was administered in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period. Under the UFC Anti-Doping Policy, intravenous infusions in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period are prohibited, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. Intravenous infusions received in any other setting require an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).

Penn, 37, voluntarily disclosed his use of the intravenous infusion and fully cooperated with USADA’s investigation into the circumstances regarding his violation.


So USADA didn't care about if they declared the IVs beforehand. They still needed to have a TUE prior to using the IV


4. They gave Floyd a vitamin laced IV ****tail. Not something that was for hyponatremia!!!


Secondly, if you have hyponatremia, you go to a hospital where they do an examination and order lab tests to be done. Once the tests are verified, the right IV type of IV is prescribed and importantly given at a timely manner. Given too quick or wrong type of IV can make things worse not better.


Floyd was not sent to no hospital.

5. Delays and allowed to use an IV without having a prior TUE is what was the issue. And knowing that Floyd was NOT severely dehydrated because everything pointed to him being OK. So stop hiding behind that fake medical note of Floyd's.

All that is given to them is the doctor's note. If the note is convincing enough then Floyd is cleared. This is Floyd's doctor who Floyd pays to write this just like Lance Armstrong got his doctor to prescribe and back-date his prescription. Its the oldest trick in the book! That is why they state that you must have a TUE PRIOR to using.

Floyd's doctor was not even there. How do I know this? Floyd thanks Dr Alex Ariza!!!!!!! So stop this BS about a TUEC having to be in on it. While they might in this case since USADA has a relationship with Floyd, it's not even necessary.

6. Floyd delayed and used an IV .... text book Lance Armstrong who also was supposedly CLEAN and his fans said the same as you .....

Now if we had nothing on Floyd, I'm OK with your response but the simple fact is that we have a lot on Floyd just before Floyd got his IV and even video interviews just after his IV.

We even have Floyd's own words from different interviews. He blames it all on giving urine, giving blood and exercising a little bit of exercise the day before to stay sharp. Pretend Manny said that and he used a BANNED METHOD? You would have a firing squad on Manny by now!!!

Floyd even said, others use Pedialyte, I used an IV.

Plus we have the video above saying that he has an advantage because his weight is relatively stable yet used an IV???



BUT the above is all deflections.

YOU admitted that Diaz could rehydrate in less than an hour to go from extreme dehydration to very diluted. So why did Floyd need an IV if we saw Floyd drink and an adequate amount of time passed so that Floyd would have been rehydrated even before he left MGM that day.



.

[ADP02]

That's what you are...a bitter little midget that can't let go of Pac's loss to Mayweather.

I'm taller than your hero Floyd. I'm also 100% ALL NATURAL and Floyd is NOT!!! You Floyd fans were so proud of Floyd for that .... not anymore!

You just cannot stand that the truth came out about your hero Floyd and so you are all defensive about it!

[travestyny]

1.
Actually they do mention that if just mild or moderate then drink fluids. As I posted above.

2. BOTH Floyd and those people declared use of an IV before requesting and receiving a TUE approval.

3. A desire to have it does not mean that they requested a TUE beforehand. The request came 3 weeks after using an IV.
Floyd declared IV was used BEFORE giving his urine sample. Jessica Phillips declared use of an IV BEFORE a test as well.

a) USADA announced today that Jessica Phillips, of Kennesaw, Georgia an athlete in the sport of weightlifting, has accepted a 14-month sanction for her use of a prohibited method.
During an out-of-competition test on April 25, 2016, Phillips, 25, declared the use of an intravenous infusion of non-prohibited substances. A subsequent investigation by USADA revealed that the intravenous infusion received by Phillips was administered in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period under the care of a physician.

intravenous infusions in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period are prohibited – except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. Intravenous infusions or injections received in any other setting require an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).

Phillips period of ineligibility began on April 25, 2016, the date her use was declared. In addition, Phillips has been disqualified from all competitive results obtained on and subsequent to April 25, 2016, including forfeiture of any medals, points, and prizes.


b) During an out-of-competition test on March 25, 2016, Penn declared the use of an intravenous infusion of a non-prohibited substance that was administered by a doctor. A subsequent investigation by USADA revealed that the intravenous infusion received by Penn was administered in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period. Under the UFC Anti-Doping Policy, intravenous infusions in a volume greater than 50 mL within a 6 hour period are prohibited, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. Intravenous infusions received in any other setting require an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).

Penn, 37, voluntarily disclosed his use of the intravenous infusion and fully cooperated with USADA’s investigation into the circumstances regarding his violation.


So USADA didn't care about if they declared the IVs beforehand. They still needed to have a TUE prior to using the IV


4. They gave Floyd a vitamin laced IV ****tail. Not something that was for hyponatremia!!!


Secondly, if you have hyponatremia, you go to a hospital where they do an examination and order lab tests to be done. Once the tests are verified, the right IV type of IV is prescribed and importantly given at a timely manner. Given too quick or wrong type of IV can make things worse not better.


Floyd was not sent to no hospital.

5. Delays and allowed to use an IV without having a prior TUE is what was the issue. And knowing that Floyd was NOT severely dehydrated because everything pointed to him being OK. So stop hiding behind that fake medical note of Floyd's.

All that is given to them is the doctor's note. If the note is convincing enough then Floyd is cleared. This is Floyd's doctor who Floyd pays to write this just like Lance Armstrong got his doctor to prescribe and back-date his prescription. Its the oldest trick in the book! That is why they state that you must have a TUE PRIOR to using.

Floyd's doctor was not even there. How do I know this? Floyd thanks Dr Alex Ariza!!!!!!! So stop this BS about a TUEC having to be in on it. While they might in this case since USADA has a relationship with Floyd, it's not even necessary.

6. Floyd delayed and used an IV .... text book Lance Armstrong who also was supposedly CLEAN and his fans said the same as you .....

Now if we had nothing on Floyd, I'm OK with your response but the simple fact is that we have a lot on Floyd just before Floyd got his IV and even video interviews just after his IV.

We even have Floyd's own words from different interviews. He blames it all on giving urine, giving blood and exercising a little bit of exercise the day before to stay sharp. Pretend Manny said that and he used a BANNED METHOD? You would have a firing squad on Manny by now!!!

Floyd even said, others use Pedialyte, I used an IV.

Plus we have the video above saying that he has an advantage because his weight is relatively stable yet used an IV???



BUT the above is all deflections.

YOU admitted that Diaz could rehydrate in less than an hour to go from extreme dehydration to very diluted. So why did Floyd need an IV if we saw Floyd drink and an adequate amount of time passed so that Floyd would have been rehydrated even before he left MGM that day.



.

Wow. Dude. Go back, read what I wrote very carefully, and then you will see your mistake.

If you still don't understand, I'll help you out when I have time.