Comments Thread For: Chavez Jr: Fans Are With Me, They Turned on Canelo Over Golovkin

[M Bison]

I'm fully for Chavez Jr, fxck him up champ

[SterlingStained]

i can never respect a pro boxer who cant get in shape.

even tho canelo is ducking GGG, at least he's professional about it.

[Tomjas]

Nah you fat ****. We're not. Atleast Canelo still gives us good fights

When was the last time Canelo signed to fight a decent opponent (and dont say ancient dwarf Cotto either)?

[Tomjas]

My loyalty lies with the Pride of East L.A. Oscar "The Golden Boy" De La Hoya. I never diminished Chavez Sr. accomplishments a true Legend but never forget Oscar beat him twice so he earn his keep... Chavez Jr. hates on his own and so does his father. Canelo earn his shine he dare to be great no need for the hate that both throw at him... Gonna be there for the promo tour in LA as well for the weight in and fight @ Vegas, I'm sike

"Dare to be great"

Worst duck in history of the sport

Wise up and stop putting money in his pocket

[MDPopescu]

Vamos Julio! ...

WTF?

[B][COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="6"]Train hard Julio! [/QUOTE]
Sure...

Damn coward, your (?)a disgrace to your father's legacy.

???

Didn't Jr delay the Martinez fight for even longer than Canelo has put off facing Golovkin?

Chavez has a point of course, it does seem like a lot less Mexicans on this site support Canelo than used to be the case. He still has a lot more fans on here than Chavez though.

yeah...

If chavez jr is dedicated and shows up in shape i think he can win by late stoppage

... dedicated ???

Chavez Jr is funny. Bro fans have lessened there support by fight based on how you don't respect the sport.

.. he is...

I'm with Chavez Jr on this one but I'm sure if even Chavez gives Canelo the fight of his life, he'll still get robbed.

The only way to beat Canelo is knock him out. Every fight that goes to the cards against Canelo is instant robbery = defeat.

Ok, OK...

[Beercules]

Messicans are about to go wild on each other...

[QballLobo]

People think Jr. can do to Canelo what Margacheato did to Cotto. Unfortunately Jr. won't have plaster in his gloves. Canelo will handle his business here. He know this fight is important to his legacy as a Mexican world champion.

[Shadoww702]

Never ever has Canelo or Golden Boy gone on record to say GGG wanted a 55/45 split so they preferred to vacate, ever. You're reaching and you know it. Link one credible article that states that. Canelo is the biggest cash cow and he is, I don't deny it. But somehow you want people to believe that this cash cow would have to surrender his bargaining chips as the A side in all of boxing to GGG and because he couldn't, that's why he vacated? Come on bro, I'm sure you know that's a little bitty mentirita you're trying to sell as a shi+ torta right?

This has nothing nothing to do with his resume at 26 years old. It's what he's doing at this very moment, vacating titles to not defend against GGG, Andrade or the Charlos at 154. Thats not daring to be great bro, that's laughable and the entire Mexican community agrees. If you're argument was legitimate then Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. is still the biggest Live gate draw today with 132,000 plus on attendance, Roy Jones Jr is still the greatest Pound for Pound on the planet and Floyd Mayweather is still the ultimate cash cow in all of combat sports combined. Doesn't that sound ******ed? Of course it does because neither are that anymore at this very moment, right now today.

For the record, Texas has the biggest contingent of Mexican boxing fans anywhere in the US. When Chavez fought Sweetpea here in San Antonio there were over 58,000 in attendance. When I was at the Pacquiao/Margarito fight there were 42,000 in attendance. When I went to the Pacquiao/Clottey fight, there were 50,000 in attendance. Guess who made up the crowd? 3/4 of the fans were Mexican cheering a Filipino against a Ghanaian. So you're wrong, it has less to do with Canelo and everything to do with how big of a Mexican boxing contingent there is in Texas. Go attend a Dallas Cowboys game on any season and you won't see anywhere a big of a Mexican crowd than in Texas.

Canelo hasn't lost prestige you say? Well let's take a look at that statement for a second. Canelo/Cotto did 900K buys, Canelo/Khan between 500-600K buys, Canelo/Smith barely hit 350K buys. Notice a trend since climbing the ring stating "Me subiría a pelear ahorita mismo, como decimos en México ¡Hay que dejarnos de mamadas! Los cinturones aquí y se hacen a un lado. En este deporte no se viene a jugar y no le tengo miedo a nadie” only to vacate like no other Mexican champion had before?

Chavez no doubt will pull way more fans in to help Canelo's diminishing PPV numbers and the world will turn even more on Canelo if he loses to Chavez. .

OK!

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Here's the cliff notes.

"Alvarez and Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya faced a Tuesday deadline to make the mandatory fight or the WBC would hold a purse bid"

"The bid amount is split between the fighters, generally a 55-45 split in the case of a WBC title fight between a titleholder and interim titlist."

Now WHY would Leoffler NOT want it to go to a purse bid??? The split is SET then! He would of been DUMB otherwise.... Oscar OK? We have until Tuesday how does 70/30 sound?? Leofller umm NOPE! We'll wait and do the purse bid KNOWING we'll get 45% DON'T be ****** Oscar!

What you know more than DAN Rafeal who talks to PROMOTORS/Boxers/Trainers/Judges/Refs/Boxing ORGANIZATIONS???

Sure you do!

[PoserExposer]

Hey ******, GGG was his MANDATORY. Did you know a mandatory doesn't go to purse bid unless of course THE OPPONENT (CANELO) DOESN'T WANT TO FIGHT HIM BY REFUSING TO SIGN BEFORE A DEADLINE?

Back to my point, Canelo didn't vacate because of money or because he wanted a higher split, he was mandated to fight him and reach a deal or get stripped. He didn't allow himself to get stripped, HE VACATED AHEAD OF HIS DEADLINE ******...yes, VACATED. It's the typical price himself out to use it as an excuse so imbeciles like you can make excuses for him. You can blame GGG and K2 wanting more money, the fact of the matter is GGG was his mandatory and Canelo opted to vacate, PERIOD! Didn't bother losing his title in the ring. And you can throw all the offer BS from Oscar out the window. We'll offer GGG X amount...of but we won't be ready for another calendar year (September 2017)!

Fool PLEASE!! If he wanted it AND GGG would've accepted, Canelo and Oscar STILL didn't want the fight for a whole year. Let that sink in for a minute casual! No wonder you're on several people's NSB Hall Of Shame!

OK!

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Here's the cliff notes.

"Alvarez and Golden Boy CEO Oscar De La Hoya faced a Tuesday deadline to make the mandatory fight or the WBC would hold a purse bid"

"The bid amount is split between the fighters, generally a 55-45 split in the case of a WBC title fight between a titleholder and interim titlist."

Now WHY would Leoffler NOT want it to go to a purse bid??? The split is SET then! He would of been DUMB otherwise.... Oscar OK? We have until Tuesday how does 70/30 sound?? Leofller umm NOPE! We'll wait and do the purse bid KNOWING we'll get 45% DON'T be ****** Oscar!

What you know more than DAN Rafeal who talks to PROMOTORS/Boxers/Trainers/Judges/Refs/Boxing ORGANIZATIONS???

Sure you do!

[PoserExposer]

Let's take a look at who's ducked GGG:

Peter Quillin
Daniel Jacobs (only fighting GGG because he was forced as his mandatory)
Canelo (Much easier to vacate)
Billy Joe Saunders
Chris Eubank

Please remind me when Andre Ward was ever a champion at 160 with GGG or was his mandatory? Because he never was so as far as I know, you know and the whole public knows is there is nobody at 160 that GGG has ever dodged...but nice try ******. GGG wants to unify, something Bernard Hopkins did but you and every other causal want GGG to climb up because then champions like Quillin, Jacobs, Canelo and Saunders never wanted to fight him. You're excuses stink like dogshi+ but I understand where you're coming from, you're a casual.

Read this article it will teach you a lot about why Canelo drop the belt (hint: it wasn't b/c he fear Lil G)

(http://www.*********.com/Boxing/why-...is-belt-339044)

Its funny how you seem to believe Canelo who fights for a living and done it since he was 15 yrs old as a pro would be scared to fight another man. Boxing is a business 1st and foremost if it was about glory then Lil G would of fought Ward along time ago or Adonis would of fought Kovalev by now. Shoot, look @ lil G right know he's being offered 15 mil to fight Canelo on Sep. that's 3x the money he has ever made in one fight but he keeps asking for 40% split. Why does lil G who only PPV did 97k deserve 40% Canelo is the cash cow he brings in the fans but no you won't call that a duck just a business move right?

WTF? You say is not about the resume is about who he fights now? Alright then, you named 3 fighters Lil G, Charlo, Andrande let's take a look at their last 3 opponents:

Lil G: Monroe, Wade, Brooks
Andrande: Rose, Pucheta, Nelson
Charlo: Camfort, Trout, Williams

I guess those guys you just mention aren't really that great seeing how their recent opposition are at best B level talents.

Again, you talking about Canelo losing prestige even though he brought in 52,000 Mexicans in his last fight against a complete unknown. Your argument doesn't make sense no other fighter is doing that. Not just that you wanna rip on his PPV numbers name one other fighter that's brings in 300,000 buys now days besides PacMan you can't. Nelo has the Mexican people behind him. the Smith fight brought in 18 mil viewers in Mexico. Yet, according to you la raza is ashamed of him, lol. Let's see how many people Cotto brings in for his fight at the Cowboys training facility, if you're argument is true all the Mexicans will come out to support a fellow Latino... like you said the Chavez fight will bring in a lot more PPV meaning your trend will be wrong b/c Canelo buys will be going up not down.

I have been to Canelo's last 5 fights Lara @ the MGM Grand, Kirkland @ Minute Maid Park, Cotto @ Mandalay Bay, Khan @ T-Mobile Arena and Smith @ Cowboys Stadium let me say this Canelo fans have been growing not shrinking like you said don't confuse him to Chavez Jr. Who real Mexicans see as a disgrace...