Jack Dempsey vs Today's Heavyweights

[ShoulderRoll]

Hell, Floyd dominated the sport for 20 years partly because of his rare shoulder roll defense.

But that wasn't rare to Dempsey. He was well aware of it and included it in his arsenal.

Figure 53 from his book:

[Madison Boxing]

hed get slaughtered by the top guys, and most the fringe world level fighters. Way too small. the guy was 1.85cm and 87kg. Didnt even look that muscular. How the hell is he going to trade with any modern heavyweight? Looks half the size of someone like usyk who people were debating was too small to compete at heavyweight. Same with david haye, way too small against wlad but hes probably twice the size of dempsey in terms of muscle and frame.

[Kigali]

hed get slaughtered by the top guys, and most the fringe world level fighters. Way too small. the guy was 1.85cm and 87kg. Didnt even look that muscular. How the hell is he going to trade with any modern heavyweight? Looks half the size of someone like usyk who people were debating was too small to compete at heavyweight. Same with david haye, way too small against wlad but hes probably twice the size of dempsey in terms of muscle and frame.

You don't know **** about boxing.

Dempsey is better than the guys that beat Vlad.

He's bigger and better than Chris Byrd...who made Vitali quit on his stool.

[J.Dempsey]

Jack Dempsey would smash all!

And I'm completely unbiased...

[Madison Boxing]

You don't know **** about boxing.

Dempsey is better than the guys that beat Vlad.

He's bigger and better than Chris Byrd...who made Vitali quit on his stool.

byrd, the guy who was miles behind on the scorecards (lost 8 of 9 rounds and 7 out of 9 on the other cards) and won because vitali injured his shoulder? The same byrd who got spanked by wlad twice? and you say i dont know **** about boxing yet you use chris byrd as an example?

[Kigali]

byrd, the guy who was miles behind on the scorecards (lost 8 of 9 rounds and 7 out of 9 on the other cards) and won because vitali injured his shoulder? The same byrd who got spanked by wlad twice? and you say i dont know **** about boxing yet you use chris byrd as an example?

Wilder injured his shoulder AND broke his hand...but he didn't QUIT.

Byrd was actually WALKING VITALI DOWN.
He was down in the fight but boy was he catching up.

Ali didn't let a broken jaw make him quit.

Floyd fought with a jacked shoulder...broken hand.....never quit.


Seems like certain fighters lack heart.

[Madison Boxing]

Wilder injured his shoulder AND broke his hand...but he didn't QUIT.

Byrd was actually WALKING VITALI DOWN.
He was down in the fight but boy was he catching up.

Ali didn't let a broken jaw make him quit.

Floyd fought with a jacked shoulder...broken hand.....never quit.


Seems like certain fighters lack heart.

he wasnt walking vitali down. He was getting whooped, and he got whooped by his brother twice, cause he was too small. Vitali not carrying on with a shoulder injuy has nothing to do with byrd, and nothing to do with dempsey being able to compete against the modern day super heavyweights.

[Kigali]

he wasnt walking vitali down. He was getting whooped, and he got whooped by his brother twice, cause he was too small. Vitali not carrying on with a shoulder injuy has nothing to do with byrd, and nothing to do with dempsey being able to compete against the modern day super heavyweights.

Chris was not getting whooped at the time of the quittage.
Byrd was walking Vitali's sorry ass down and catching him.

It took TWO Klits to beat ONE Chris Byrd

Dempsey would pimp them like them hoes they are.

Wilder didn't let worse injuries make him QUIT.

East Euros lack heart
They can dish it out...but they can't take it.

They won't even fight on the inside.

[SN!PER]

The thing about Dempsey is that he grew up as a street kid bareknuckling grown men just to afford meals.

He knew how to fight before most people learned to tie a pair of shoes.

Putting a pair of gloves on and having resting time between rounds was a dream come true to someone like him.

Training was not work, it was a privilege and an honor.

[robertzimmerman]

"Floyd Mayweather is better than Sugar Ray Robinson in the skills department and only those who are brainwashed by nostalgia would refute my claims".....................

You don't know what your watching if you think Mayweather has more skills, talent and guts than Robinson! There is NOTHING that Mayweather does that is better than Sugar Ray.

You are welcome to your opinion but my opinion has more value because I actually worked in the business. If your a dentist or architect I'm not valuing my opinion of those professions over yours.

Dempsey was a top tier talent when evaluating him in his style and with his form. He was not a stand up boxer like Wlad. Wlad was very successful at utilizing his athletic ability especially learning a methodology from Stewart. Dempsey was also extremely gifted performing his style as a pressure fighter who had a great two handed attack.

Out of all the sports watched since the 1930's boxing has the least innovations as to techniques applied. There are no new punches thrown in fact there's less. The duration of title fights has decreased! There are more titles on the line offered by watered down federations than ever before.
In regards to the heavyweight competition the Klitz era was as bad as the early 50's up to 1960. It many ways it was worse because there so many more boxers available with the popularity of the amateur programs throughout the world.

People are only speculating about out comes, to decide a man like Dempsey has "no chance" just sounds like a boxings fanboy observation.
I'm not a huge fan of Dempsey I just admired his determination and attitude when the bell rang. When a fighter like Mike Tyson tells everyone he met when he was a kid that he is trying to emulate Dempsey that should explain to fans how Dempsey is
held in such high esteem.
Dempsey came to destroy not have the judges play a roll. Fighters who bring that methodology are always more impressive than a fellow like Wlad who jabs and holds. Mayweather couldn't carry Robinson's jock, come on Mayweather is a 130 pounder not a welter yet there are people on this forum who think he's ATG over everyone? Really he had 12 fights at 147! ok enough of this tripe.
Elroy would be right in the middle with toilet paper on his shoe!

Ray

An outstanding post Ray.

A real pleasure to read.

Some of these guys are so ignorant.