Comments Thread For: J. Mayweather: Haters Fueled Floyd's Big Pay-Per-View Numbers

[TheCell8]

It's a mix of the 2 yea his fans did but but you have people who will pay to hopefully watch him lose. Whether they admit it is the question.



They knew he would win.

The people who hoped he would lose probably paid for his most competitive fights on paper, Canelo fight and Manny fight. Which did his best numbers.

The other fights he had, he was a huge favorite. 6-1 or 8-1. His haters definitely didn't pay for this, at least not a lot of them did. His fans did.

[BoxingPugilist]

There is some truth to this, however I think it was much more rooted in the undefeated element. He was the biggest name in boxing, he was the best in the world, so every single fight he entered had the aura of "is this when the 0 becomes a 1?"

Manny, while probably having more "entertaining" fights during the same time period had lost. There was nothing magical about the idea of him losing. People buy narratives, they buy stories. Mayweather losing would be a story, one people would like to claim they "were there" for it. So every fight he was in became more of a "must see" event. Manny losing hardly got covered by the media, look at the back to back loses to Bradley and JMM - it didn't really matter - the narrative was already set: Manny Pacquiao was the right fighter with the right kind of match up to beat Mayweather. That's why May/Pac was the huge financial success it was.

Like I said, I don't think people plunked down $60 and said "I hate Mayweather, I hope he loses." I think they bought it knowing it's boxing, upsets happen all the time, and each and every fight had the potential to be that kind of historic moment.

[Jamie harris]

Wow that Jeff is one clever bloke. His only just realised!!! Bet he's spounging off may weather jnr.

[sicko]

TRUE! The obsession with seeing him lose made him a TON OF MONEY and yeah absolutely he played into that with the 24/7 and All Access Stuff getting Casuals Panties in a Bunch which was so easy for him to do I'm sure

[BrometheusBob.]

This definitely warranted a whole new article

[Patsfan bri]

I have said this all along. People didn't pay to see Floyd cause he was exciting, they paid with hopes to see him lose. People paid to Tyson cause he was exciting.

[LoadedWraps]

This is a big myth. Are you telling me that his haters would put up $60 to watch him fight 8-1 underdogs in the hopes that he would lose? lol gtfo. His haters likely streamed most of his shows.

Reality was that Floyd had a lot of fans that bought his PPVs.

It's definitely true, your statement might hold weight if we all lived under a rock together, but we don't.

Have you ever watched a Mayweather fight in public? Most people are rooting against him hard!

The only fight I wasn't one of the only Floyd fans somewhere was the Maidana fight and that's because I was in Maidana gear for those fights because I was expecting an upset to a controversial decision at worst, but I was still a fan of both fighters at the time.

Heck I took friends to the Canelo/Floyd fight and all of them left pissed and hating Floyd more.

Even at my gym for cying out loud, us Floyd fans were the minority. Me, like two other dudes, and the gym owner were all floyd fans, everyone else either was indifferent, or HATED him. Most of the casuals, and peeps who went to workout but weren't licensed boxers would be pac fans, and the serious boxers were usually a mix, but tended to have favorites like JMM, Mayorga, Cotto, but usually would still admit Floyd was the p4p king at that time even if they hated him.

Bottom line is you are being awfully naive if you don't think 6/10 people who watch/attend a Floyd fight aren't hoping he gets worldstar'd hard!! It's most of the reason he had the persona he did - he knew he would breed hate and that would turn into viewers.

[Pigeons]

$1.3 billion in PPV revenue later, the joke's on them.

[TheCell8]

It's definitely true, your statement might hold weight if we all lived under a rock together, but we don't.

Have you ever watched a Mayweather fight in public? Most people are rooting against him hard!

The only fight I wasn't one of the only Floyd fans somewhere was the Maidana fight and that's because I was in Maidana gear for those fights because I was expecting an upset to a controversial decision at worst, but I was still a fan of both fighters at the time.

Heck I took friends to the Canelo/Floyd fight and all of them left pissed and hating Floyd more.

Even at my gym for cying out loud, us Floyd fans were the minority. Me, like two other dudes, and the gym owner were all floyd fans, everyone else either was indifferent, or HATED him. Most of the casuals, and peeps who went to workout but weren't licensed boxers would be pac fans, and the serious boxers were usually a mix, but tended to have favorites like JMM, Mayorga, Cotto, but usually would still admit Floyd was the p4p king at that time even if they hated him.

Bottom line is you are being awfully naive if you don't think 6/10 people who watch/attend a Floyd fight aren't hoping he gets worldstar'd hard!! It's most of the reason he had the persona he did - he knew he would breed hate and that would turn into viewers.

Mayweather haters paid for his most competitive fights on paper (Pacquiao, Canelo and Oscar), who is no surprise those were his most successful PPVs.

How many competitive fights did he have on paper? Only 3 and those were it.

His haters weren't paying $60 to watch him fight Guerrero and Maidana and Berto, and Ortiz.

They streamed those fights. Not all of them. Some of them paid.

But to act like Mayweather's PPVs were just being driven by his haters is laughable and false.

[LoadedWraps]

Mayweather haters paid for his most competitive fights on paper (Pacquiao, Canelo and Oscar), who is no surprise those were his most successful PPVs.

How many competitive fights did he have on paper? Only 3 and those were it.

His haters weren't paying $60 to watch him fight Guerrero and Maidana and Berto, and Ortiz.

They streamed those fights. Not all of them. Some of them paid.

But to act like Mayweather's PPVs were just being driven by his haters is laughable and false.

Well nobody said they were "just" driven by haters, but they certainly made up a huge portion of the viewerbase. It's never so binary as all or none, etc.

And really Mayweather should be commended for it, it's smart marketing.

Your average fan isn't going to stream any fight, it's us hardcore boxing fans that would even bother looking for a stream of a fight, most casual sports fans don't even know they exist, or simply wouldn't be bothered.

Also, most of Floyds fights aren't competitive for the same reason most of Golovkins arent - he is simply head and shoulders above the rest. That's not Floyds fault or anyones fault, it's just a talent gap that exists with the elite of the elite from time to time.

That's how you can tell who knows boxing. Cats were like "but the Fury/Wlad was boring". Ok, why was it boring? "because Fury didn't do anything". WRONG. Fury was simply so many levels above Wlad that Wlad COULDN'T do anything.