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  • #11
    Originally posted by NYC8224 View Post
    Go **** your sister. Its my opinion, if you dont like it, go ****ing take a walk
    It doesn't seem like a valid opinion when you ignore all forms of logic as well as boxing history as whole.

    It looked like blatant bias

    BTW, I'm to busy ****ing your sister+mother

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    • #12
      Originally posted by larry x.. View Post
      you really have to let it go man, if he retires then Kovalev can get the belts back and the world moves on..Fight was close and not a robbery at all,just because the guy you wanted to win loses a close fight does not make it a robbery..But Ward should honor the damn rematch
      His contract with Roc-Nation is done isn't it?
      Can he get the extra cash he wants to fight Kovalev in a rematch, I think he knows he likely wont get it and If he does his promoter would be essentially making a loss to give him that dough.
      Should he honour the rematch but be paid lesser so to ensure the promoter is making a profit like any good promoter would set out to do in the first place? (make $)

      I know the cash is kind of rumour right now but to me it seems like the most obvious reason why he might maybe be thinking of retirement, albeit I'm not a fan I'd rather he stayed fighting.

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      • #13
        Wards not retiring. He's just using it as leverage.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pan-Africanist View Post
          Wards not retiring. He's just using it as leverage.
          I don't get when people say this. What leverage is he after? He already had the fight on the west coast and made more than double Kovalev and the fight sold terribly for the money he got paid.

          What leverage could he possibly be holding out for? The rematch in Oakland with his wife as referee and his sons and the judges? He can't honestly expect more than $5 million after the fight bombed financially...

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          • #15
            If Ward retires he leaves out on top just like Lennox Lewis.. did Calzaghe not rematching Hopkins damage his legacy? not really, and that was a close fight as well. also let's keep in mind close fight doesn't automatically make it a robbery. .and who gives a flying **** about Fat Dan, that clown doesn't know **** about boxing, he criticized Rigo after the Donaire win even though it was a flawless masterpiece aside from a knockdown. how do you call yourself a boxing journalist and not appreciate the skills on display that night.

            Ward did what most said he couldn't..how many people said he would never face Kovalev in the first place? that he would fake an injury. .how many people thought Ward could survive Kovalev's power? not many. it was a terrific come from behind victory, a Rocky movie type fight. it was drama and action, Ward took over the second half and won. period.

            he's already in the HOF... rematch or not, it doesn't change that.

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            • #16
              Certain fights deserve a rematch and this was just one of those fights. By not honouring this you are not only robbing the fans of their pleasure but also going against the contractual terms.

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              • #17
                I've been a fan of Ward since 2009, but I saw him get outboxed by the Russian Kovalev. I had it something like 6-6 but one point extra for Kovalev to make it 114-113 Sergey.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by -Freddy- View Post
                  Certain fights deserve a rematch and this was just one of those fights. By not honouring this you are not only robbing the fans of their pleasure but also going against the contractual terms.
                  Exactly, British spelling of honoring? Not trying to be an ass just curious.

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                  • #19
                    His contract with Roc-Nation is done isn't it?
                    Can he get the extra cash he wants to fight Kovalev in a rematch, I think he knows he likely wont get it and If he does his promoter would be essentially making a loss to give him that dough.
                    Should he honour the rematch but be paid lesser so to ensure the promoter is making a profit like any good promoter would set out to do in the first place? (make $)

                    I know the cash is kind of rumour right now but to me it seems like the most obvious reason why he might maybe be thinking of retirement, albeit I'm not a fan I'd rather he stayed fighting.
                    I think you have a good point. With the PPV bombing it'll be hard for Ward to earn the same kind of money he did in a rematch. Fans might not like it but not many boxers willingly sign up to face the same tough challenge for lesser money.

                    Personally, I don't believe Ward retires before the rematch but the business side of boxing has prohibited / delayed good fights before....

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post
                      It doesn't seem like a valid opinion when you ignore all forms of logic as well as boxing history as whole.

                      It looked like blatant bias

                      BTW, I'm to busy ****ing your sister+mother
                      Its my opinion like i said, doesnt mean i dont know history or anything. If people dont think like you, you get insulted? Grow a set of balls you half a ***.

                      Im busy sticking it up your mothers ass and then she tosses my salad

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