Comments Thread For: Adonis Stevenson: Ward Beat Kovalev, I Hope We Unify Titles

[My Low Place]

Idk why you are so stuck on Kovalev lol. I'm talking about Stevenson. Kovalev has fought good competition in the same time table that Stevenson has been fighting garbage opponents. I don't give a f#ck about any specific fight in regards to this discussion. The fact that Kovalev has went on with his business. Hell even Ward has entered the division & went on with business.

Meanwhile Stevenson is just collecting paydays fighting also rans. There are better opponents out there for him. **** his own promoter is also Beterbiev's promoter & GYM won't make that fight cuz of how effed up the business of boxing is nowadays. GYM just knows Stevenson sells enough in Canada to fight garbage opponents & is hopeful Beterbiev can sell there like Stevenson at some point &/or compete with the top guys in the division.

Whatever doe you think what you think & I think what I think so I don't think either one of us is gonna sway the other at this point based on the lack of bend in our back n forth.

so u think a 36 year old in 2104 wanted to end his career with lower tier fighters and not the biggest fights so he could retired at 40 or before?? come on man

he wanted to knock bhop's block off bhop ran to hbo for less..STOP BLAMING HIM FOR BEING DUCKED BY THE TOP HEAVY DIVISION..

who did u want murat?? dawson 2? hell dawson beats karpency and that division is so out of shape at the back top ten at the time and he'd be right back in the top ten...karpency beat dawson and u can hate on him? karpency just almost knocked gvodzy's d1ck in the dirt in one round after only being given a 2 week training camp!

ONCE AGAIN YALL DONT USE CONTEXT JUST NAMES

[j0zef]

kovalev blatantly ducked stevenson. that is easily verifiable public information. it's incredible how ignorant so many of you are. swallowing HBO propaganda with a smile on your face, even when it defies all logic.

There are 2 people who actually believe that. You and that idiot thirdblindeye.

And big LOL at "defies all logic". Stevenson has been ducking any and all decent contenders since he robbed the WBC off the corpse of Chad Dawson 3 years ago. Even his own stablemate Alvarez has been waiting for a title shot for a year+ now, and they're too afraid to put Stevenson with him.

Kov has fought any and all top contenders, including a fellow P4Per Ward. When was the last time Adonis fought someone with a pulse? I'll wait.

[NaijaD]

Go watch that fight again. Williams fought like garbage, but Rodriguez fought like worse garbage is the thing.

And c'mon man this is basic ****. Ward isn't a guy who's gonna KO a lot of guys. Its not the way he fights. Ward not KOing a guy someone else KO's doesn't necessarily make it a lesser result for anyone other than the fan. And if we're now talking about fan enjoyment of fights then we can go right back to why Stevenson hasn't fought anyone anybody should give a f#ck about in a couple years.

And let me get this straight cuz you keep bringing up random **** thats neither here nor there in the things I'm saying. I like Stevenson. I think he's a talented guy. He can be fun to watch in competitive fights. And saying that last sentence suggests he's a top guy cuz if many guys fought his competition those names he's fought look decent to good on their resume. But the problem is when you are a top 1 to 3 guy in the division their is a great ability requires more responsibility angle to opponent selection. Stevenson has failed in that regard & I don't believe there is any wiggle room on that failure like you seem to feel for this reason or that reason.

I don't know why you're engaging that guy, that's the type of fan you should avoid. For him there's a valid excuse for every terrible opponent or failed big fight that Stevenson has had.

Stevenson has been on a shocking run of opponents since Fonfara, that's 2 and a half years of sub par opponents. He's had first refusal on pretty much every top LHW also but for one reason or another the fights didn't come off. Defending him is just pure fanboyism cause the guy deserves to be laughed at.

[Eff Pandas]

I don't know why you're engaging that guy, that's the type of fan you should avoid. For him there's a valid excuse for every terrible opponent or failed big fight that Stevenson has had.

Stevenson has been on a shocking run of opponents since Fonfara, that's 2 and a half years of sub par opponents. He's had first refusal on pretty much every top LHW also but for one reason or another the fights didn't come off. Defending him is just pure fanboyism cause the guy deserves to be laughed at.

Yea you aren't wrong. Sometimes those debates with irrational fanboys sneak up on me.

In my defense I'm generally better at avoiding them or labeling them sooner.

[KeyboardWarrior]

he didnt jump ship you ******... Hbo boycotted haymon so he took all his fighters to other networks.... Its not rocket science... Stop making up crap...

The facts remain this fight was supposed to happen then Haymon and Stevenson went to Showtime. And that is not made up.
You can stop calling professional Boxers cowards then telling others to stop making crap up alt.

[original zero]

There are 2 people who actually believe that. You and that idiot thirdblindeye.

It doesn't matter how many people believe it if it's true and easily verifiable. It's all public information. Kovalev requested that he be allowed to fight Pascal for the WBC diamond title. Kovalev requested that he be made Stevenson's mandatory if he won the WBC diamond title. Kovalev requested a 50/50 purse split.

Kovalev beat Pascal, fulfilling his HBO contract and becoming Stevenson's mandatory, with an approved 50/50 split as Kovalev requested.

Kovalev was a TV free agent and nothing was stopping him from facing Stevenson. Kovalev chose to resign with HBO exclusively and refused to participate in the purse bid.

He blatantly ducked Stevenson. He used the Stevenson fight as leverage to get more money out of HBO and then he ducked Stevenson.

A lot of people being wrong doesn't mean they stop being wrong. You guys got fooled by HBO propaganda. Plain and simple. Everything I've stated in this post is easily verifiable and I've posted the links over and over again. But some of you are simply allergic to facts.

[jmrf4435]

COming from the fraud himself in Stevenson.

What a joke, I hope Joe smith or Kovlalev puts his lights out

[TexasCowBoy]

I read everybodies comments and chickenson is still not fighting anybody worth seeing.....its the Protecting Boxing Cowards way of doing business...the pbc brand is effing it self up pretty good....they don't churn their roster.....guys like arum , king and to a certain extent golden boy make the tough fights....I'd like to see Chickenson vs beterbiev.....the only fight that pbc has on paper that I will watch is thurman vs garcia.....I have completely tuned out pbc....with the exception of Lomachenko vs russell......quality over quantity....arum might not have 200 fighters signed but he sure does have the best fighter in boxing and that is Loma.......How bout them Cowboys!!!!!!!

[BillyBoxing]

I think Ward would beat Stevenson a lot more comfortably than he did Kov.

I think Kov would beat him too for that matter.

I just hope we get to finally see him in a big fight with one of them this year, or at least in with Beterbiev who should be an easy fight to make with having the same promoter.

In wich dimension Ward actually beat Kovalev?

All I know is he got a very debatable decision from american judges.

But he never beat Kovalev, had a sort of dominance, or inflicted any kind of damage worth to say he beat Kovalev.

He grabbed a decision at best.

[j0zef]

It doesn't matter how many people believe it if it's true and easily verifiable. It's all public information. Kovalev requested that he be allowed to fight Pascal for the WBC diamond title. Kovalev requested that he be made Stevenson's mandatory if he won the WBC diamond title. Kovalev requested a 50/50 purse split.

Kovalev beat Pascal, fulfilling his HBO contract and becoming Stevenson's mandatory, with an approved 50/50 split as Kovalev requested.

Kovalev was a TV free agent and nothing was stopping him from facing Stevenson. Kovalev chose to resign with HBO exclusively and refused to participate in the purse bid.

He blatantly ducked Stevenson. He used the Stevenson fight as leverage to get more money out of HBO and then he ducked Stevenson.

A lot of people being wrong doesn't mean they stop being wrong. You guys got fooled by HBO propaganda. Plain and simple. Everything I've stated in this post is easily verifiable and I've posted the links over and over again. But some of you are simply allergic to facts.

Sorry kiddo, you're choosing to interpret the "facts" to paint your own narrative.

Not Kovalev, not anybody, would ever betray the network that built him and sponsored him in order to sign with a 2nd rate Showtime that pays their fighters less and struggles to get half the viewership that HBO does.

Duva pulled Kovalev out of the purse bid when it became obvious that GYM did not want to negotiate. Everybody knew that Main Events would lose the bid to Haymon, which would force Kovalev to give up his belts. That was the extent of GYM's plan.


Nobody has ever ducked Stevenson. He's a garbage fighter, a piece of **** of a human being, a woman abuser, and hasn't fought anyone with a pulse in years. His best win was put down by a construction worker in 1 round this year. Stevenson has ducked Hopkins, Pascal and has been ducking his 'mandatory' stablemate Alvarez for more than a year now.