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  • Shadoww702
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    #21
    Originally posted by suzuky23
    Same as WBC Handing Out "Diamond Titles" To Canelo & Chavez;

    Shameful but not the first time a Major Boxing Body Hands out Titles like candy , or you guys have forgotten about WBC .... Handing Mexicans "Diamond" belts like Candy ........
    ??? Show my? If not then continue trolling because I call BS!

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    • Shadoww702
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      #22
      The title should read

      4' 12" CurbSidze just gained 97,000 GGG Fans overnight!

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        #23
        Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
        I give a damn about Khurtsidze - Saunders. I think it'd be a good fight, but more than that it's the principle, what's the point in having the orgs at all if they ain't gonna try to enforce their own rules? How will guys who don't bring the money ever gonna get a chance to shine if the orgs constantly bypass them. I know it's not new, I know it happens all the time, but that doesn't make it OK. With Canelo - Chavez in the pipeline Saunders vs Canelo ain't happening anytime soon, so why shouldn't Avtandil get his shot first?

        In my reading the issue is more to do with the WBO taking sides in the promotional crap between Haymon and GBP. If Canelo wants Saunders, with or without a belt all he has to do is ask (and provide the right payday), he doesn't need to be mandatory. Anyway why would the WBO care if Canelo had to fight Khurtsidze rather than Saunders for the strap? Neither bring much money. They could sanction either bout if they chose, surely? No. I suspect GBPs worry is that Saunders might lose to Khurtsidze and they would then be forced into doing business with Haymon in a situation where Haymon holds the cards.

        You got it right THERE!!! But the WBO is worried more than even OSCAR. This just is furthur proof on how SHTY the MW Division is! NutSize or Saunders wouldn't be a Champion or this relevant in any other weight class. Maybe the Woman's weight class and that's it.

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          #24
          aka canelo a b itch end of topic

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            #25
            Originally posted by Shadoww702
            You got it right THERE!!! But the WBO is worried more than even OSCAR. This just is furthur proof on how SHTY the MW Division is! NutSize or Saunders wouldn't be a Champion or this relevant in any other weight class. Maybe the Woman's weight class and that's it.
            You're weird, man. How is this proof of **** except standard Sanction org corruption? True, they ain't massively relevant except that they hold a strap, but then there's guys like that in most classes. How about guys like Indongo or Zeuge for instance?

            Nah, it's the principle at stake here, if you'd just look beyond your agenda for a moment. What would you be saying, for example, if the IBF uppped and mandated Brook vs Indongo, bumping Spence out of the way?

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              #26
              WBO have bumped Haye up to No1 aswell after his FOTY calibre performances against Mori and Gjergjaj

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                #27
                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                You're weird, man. How is this proof of **** except standard Sanction org corruption? True, they ain't massively relevant except that they hold a strap, but then there's guys like that in most classes. How about guys like Indongo or Zeuge for instance?

                Nah, it's the principle at stake here, if you'd just look beyond your agenda for a moment. What would you be saying, for example, if the IBF uppped and mandated Brook vs Indongo, bumping Spence out of the way?
                EVERY boxing ORGANIZATION is currupt! Not just the WBO and NO! Not just recently ONLY for CanYelow... They've been ranking dead guys and who ever pays them more since the beginning of time. Google Bob Arum or Don King...What agenda do I exactly have??? Thinking that Saunders who almost lost to a no body?? Or a 4' 12" MW ??? Is actually ATG like u do???

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  EVERY boxing ORGANIZATION is currupt! Not just the WBO and NO! Not just recently ONLY for CanYelow... They've been ranking dead guys and who ever pays them more since the beginning of time. Google Bob Arum or Don King...What agenda do I exactly have??? Thinking that Saunders who almost lost to a no body?? Or a 4' 12" MW ??? Is actually ATG like u do???
                  We're in general agreement about the corruption of the sanction orgs, but the agenda I was talking about is that which drove you to somehow make this about the ****ness of the MW division rather than about the central theme which effects all divisions. I know your opinions already, man, and we can discuss them elsewhere if you like, but this is about the corruption of the sanctioning orgs not the ****ness of Golovkins resume for once.

                  And what? Ha ha ha Khurtsidze an ATG? That came out the blue. Kids a tough scrapper with his heart on his sleeve, plenty of volume and a good engine, sure I like him. Beyond being the kind of guy that makes for entertaining fights however I don't see him as anything that special (although it's possible he'd be too much for the latest version of Saunders). doesn't mean I don't want to see him get his shot though.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Loque-san
                    Boxing organizations do this all the time. I doubt anyone with a functioning brain needed this ruling to realize that sanctioning bodies are actually ranking fighters based on their popularity and the power of their promoter.

                    The WBO has done this on various occasions in recent years and will continue to do so. You can agree or disagree but you have to be consistent. If memory serves me right, Terence Crawford was immediately ranked number 1 or 2 when he moved up from 135 to 140 and ended up fighting for the vacant belt. Mikey Garcia was Martinez's mandatory challenger right after leaving 126. Canelo currently holds the WBO light middleweight title, he has announced his intention of moving up in weight and therefore becomes mandatory challenger for Saunders.

                    So why the backlash now? Well, just because it's Canelo. How many hard-working fighters have been passed over in recent years due to the same WBO policy? And how many articles by Mr. Idec on this subject? Laughable indeed.
                    Great freakin' post, man.

                    Why do we see the backlash now yet nothing was written the countless times that Bob Arum had his guys make mysterious jumps in the WBO rankings?

                    Why is Keith Idec selective about when and against whom he vents his outrage? Where was his article when Berchelt was denied his rightful WBO title shot so that Lomachenko could get it instead?

                    It's one thing for boxing fans to have agendas but boxing writers should be professional and objective. If they are going to criticize then they should do it equally across the board, not single out certain fighters/promoters while completely letting others off the hook.

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                      #30
                      Why is this such an outrage now? It's business as usual. Remember when the United States was going to take on the big bad latin based boxing organizations and drive them out? The IBF was born - how did that work out? An FBI investigation and several indictments later that self righteous nonsense went right out the window. Cash cows historically get preferential treatment through money making and matchmaking maneuvers. It isn't just boxing. Ask Dana White about Conor McGregor and Rhonda Rousey over at the UFC. Same difference.

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