When Wilder gonna forced to fight someone good?

[The Big Dunn]

He was forced to fight Stiverne, he won. He was forced to fight Povetkin. We know how that turned out. He was going to be forced to fight the Stiverne-Povetkin winner. We know how that turned out.

you could have closed the thread right here.

The better question: why does Povetkin need PED's to beat Wilder?

[mlac]

There's a major league difference. Exactly who's P4P list is Wilder on?

I'm a Wilder fan but it's past time for him to fight a real contender again. He gets a pass over the whole Povetkin debacle both times, but there's no reason that his January defense can't be a better opponent.

what has p4p got to do with anything?

No one is ducking wilder, he has no exuses for not fighting a legit opponent in 37 ****ing fights.

I have nothing agaisnt wilder, he seems like a nice fella, his story is good, but this isnt a personality contest this is a sport where we pay our money and they fight for our entertainment.
It's pretty obvious haymon/wilder's team do NOT want him in with anyone with a pulse...for the foreseeable future.

This is not acceptable, Haymon is doing it with most of his guy's, Just look at who adonis stevenson is fighting.

Haymon simply does not care though, he will keep them fighting total can's until they retire, laughing into the sunset. why would they care? they are getting paid regardless.
Put them in with a legit opponent and they get KO'd and he stop's getting paydays...

[Motorcity Cobra]

Stirverne is not 'good' though.

And that's another good point. Is there really a huge gap between the guy he's fighting now and Stiverne? Haye is fighting Belle. Parker team said they aren't looking for a unification. Joshua is fighting Klitschko & Ortiz is challenger for the winner of that fight. Fury is out. Molina beating Adamek & Duhaupas beating Helenius shows once you get outside of Ortiz there's a dramatic drop in skill. Any of those heavyweights outside the top 6 can beat anyone on any given day. There isn't a huge skill gap from #7-#80

[PK3434]

The Povetkin situation isn't Wilder's fault. But he should try to fight better or at least more interesting opponents voluntarily, not just "when he's forced to".

That kid Miller talks a lot of ****. Why not see if he can back it up?

[mlac]

And that's another good point. Is there really a huge gap between the guy he's fighting now and Stiverne? Haye is fighting Belle. Parker team said they aren't looking for a unification. Joshua is fighting Klitschko & Ortiz is challenger for the winner of that fight. Fury is out. Molina beating Adamek & Duhaupas beating Helenius shows once you get outside of Ortiz there's a dramatic drop in skill. Any of those heavyweights outside the top 6 can beat anyone on any given day. There isn't a huge skill gap from #7-#80

Stirverne is a C level plodder (in his prime)

The rest of the guy's hes fought are D- and worse. But hey i love how you're now pretending there's only 6 good heavyweights on earth

Parkers team just said they want a unification a few days ago, so now you've gone from excuses, to simply making things up to suit your narrative.

I thought at least you'd give a better excuse like ' wilder didnt have much amateur experience so he has to learn on the job in the pro's so naturally he won't fight anyone with a pulse until he's 45-0'

Funny that Joshua has less amateur experience than wilder and is already fighting better guy's with less than half the fights

Don't get me wrong, i think AJ is a hypejob, but wilder is a downright fraud and everybody know's it.

[iamboxing]

what has p4p got to do with anything?

No one is ducking wilder, he has no exuses for not fighting a legit opponent in 37 ****ing fights.

I have nothing agaisnt wilder, he seems like a nice fella, his story is good, but this isnt a personality contest this is a sport where we pay our money and they fight for our entertainment.
It's pretty obvious haymon/wilder's team do NOT want him in with anyone with a pulse...for the foreseeable future.

This is not acceptable, Haymon is doing it with most of his guy's, Just look at who adonis stevenson is fighting.

Haymon simply does not care though, he will keep them fighting total can's until they retire, laughing into the sunset. why would they care? they are getting paid regardless.
Put them in with a legit opponent and they get KO'd and he stop's getting paydays...

Amen to that, Haymon has been cancerous to boxing

[al-Xander]

The Haymon culture doesn't force his fighters to. Once your one-fight-a-year or two obligation is fulfilled, that's it. There's no rush to fight again. And when asked why they usually come up with BS excuses like, "No one wants to fight me." Look at them. They're all sitting pretty not worried about getting fights. Spence, Porter, Berto, Charlo brothers, Broner, Andrade, Lara wants another bum. Do you see them making extra efforts to fight again? No. And they're wondering why PBC is in deep financial mess.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Stirverne is a C level plodder (in his prime)

The rest of the guy's hes fought are D- and worse. But hey i love how you're now pretending there's only 6 good heavyweights on earth

Parkers team just said they want a unification a few days ago, so now you've gone from excuses, to simply making things up to suit your narrative.

I thought at least you'd give a better excuse like ' wilder didnt have much amateur experience so he has to learn on the job in the pro's so naturally he won't fight anyone with a pulse until he's 45-0'

Funny that Joshua has less amateur experience than wilder and is already fighting better guy's with less than half the fights

Don't get me wrong, i think AJ is a hypejob, but wilder is a downright fraud and everybody know's it.

Arum just said they aren't looking for a unification. They're looking at fighting David Price. So you need me to bump the thread? Like you said, Stiverne is a C level plodder in his prime. So tell me. Who is the guy Wilder should be fighting that's A or even B level? Where is this great fighter that's available that everyone wants Wilder to fight? I saw someone mention Gerald Washington. Is he really two levels above this guy? Who is this mystery A or B level guy that's available to fight?

[mlac]

Arum just said they aren't looking for a unification. They're looking at fighting David Price. So you need me to bump the thread? Like you said, Stiverne is a C level plodder in his prime. So tell me. Who is the guy Wilder should be fighting that's A or even B level? Where is this great fighter that's available that everyone wants Wilder to fight? I saw someone mention Gerald Washington. Is he really two levels above this guy? Who is this mystery A or B level guy that's available to fight?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11765863

if they can't get a wilder unification, their WBO mandatory is hughie fury. possibly Miller.
There's absolutely no talk about David Price, you're being confused with the Pre-ruiz fight speculation of fighting Price.

Glad you mentioned parker tho, who is a 24 year old who just had his 22nd bout. (Less amateur experience than wilder), started his pro career Less than 4 years ago.

Notable win's: Takam, Ruiz Jnr.

Wilder: 31 year old with 37 fights, about to have his 38th agaisnt another E level bum. Little amateur experience,
Started his pro career over 8 year's ago

Notable win's: Stirverne.

That's ****ing ridiculous, yet here you are still trying to sc**** the barrel of excuses all the while i see you are posting thread after thread saying how disgraceful Golovkin's resume is.

[nubianpiye]

The same people in here bashing wilders admittedly **** resume praise golovkins **** resume and reluctance to fight anyone good. Bunch of idiots major difference between the two is golovkins extensive amateur career and the fact that he has multiple weight classes above him that he can move in to.