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  • #81
    Originally posted by icha View Post
    If the offer wasnt true, they will flat out say it.. you cant call this offer a lie when loeffler him self wont deny anything...
    That's a fallacy. Something of what they said was BS and that's why they posted that.

    Canelo could have said let's make the fight next, and negotiate it for next march. But no, they put the date one year after that moment. What makes you think they really want it so bad that Golovkin is the one ducking? just **** off man.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
      there are only a handful of fighters who can tell their promoter whats what. I dont know enough about the LEGAL relationship between GGG and K2 to really have an opinion as to whether he can do whatever he wants to.

      Standard language in promotional agreements gives the PROMOTER the right to negotiate, make, or reject any fight. Thats the trade off. The fighter gets the security of having a minimum number of fights per year, at xxx minimum purse, and the promoter gets the final say so on all the details.

      But since you seem to think you know everything about how promotional contracts work, feel free to ignore people who have actually written them.........

      Edit: Honestly, the amount of arrogance you have, especially about matters you obviously dont know the first thing about, well its getting pretty tiring. I think Im done talking with you, because its pointless.
      So GGG is big enough to get a 40% split but isn't big enough to tell his promoter to make the fight? GGG is big enough to reject a fight with Ward because Ward isn't a draw but he's not big enough to tell his promoter to make the Canelo fight? So GGG is big enough (now I'm using Loeffler talking points) to sell out arenas on both coasts, sell more tickets at MSG than Cotto, sell out the O2 in the UK, but he isn't big enough to tell Tom to make the fight?

      We've went from $2mil is a lowball to $10 mil is a lowball to $15 mil is a lowball. Canelo should give him 100% and fight him for free. This guy can't even generate $15 mil in revenue himself but his promotion thinks they're worth 40% of the promotion? This isn't even the biggest fight out there for Canelo. He's got options. GGG doesn't. He won't even be on PPV without Canelo but Canelo will continue fight PPV with or without him. The double standards is amazing!!!

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
        Quoting a 1990s fight to make your argument

        I hear Carpentier fought Dempsey for 78 cents.
        lmfao this is what I was gonna say but I didnt feel like googling the difference of a dolla rback then to now is.,

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        • #84
          Whether its 10 or 15 million GGG would be dumb not to take it. If its an easy fight like his 10 fans think it is then he should accept the offer now and put GBP on blast if they think its a bs offer. There is nothing he can do between now and September to change what he is worth. All the titles don't mean **** to Canelo, nor should it.
          If the fight doesn't happen its all on GGG because its clear the fight happens on GBP terms or not at all.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
            That's a fallacy. Something of what they said was BS and that's why they posted that.

            Canelo could have said let's make the fight next, and negotiate it for next march. But no, they put the date one year after that moment. What makes you think they really want it so bad that Golovkin is the one ducking? just **** off man.
            No one is debating the date, not even loeffler, they seem very cool with that, tom and gomez are the ones negotiating and the only thing we know from any of those 2 is that there is a 15 million offer for a fight at 160 in september ,or did tom said something different yet? Did he deny anything gomez said so far??
            Last edited by icha; 12-17-2016, 04:42 PM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              So GGG is big enough to get a 40% split but isn't big enough to tell his promoter to make the fight? GGG is big enough to reject a fight with Ward because Ward isn't a draw but he's not big enough to tell his promoter to make the Canelo fight? So GGG is big enough (now I'm using Loeffler talking points) to sell out arenas on both coasts, sell more tickets at MSG than Cotto, sell out the O2 in the UK, but he isn't big enough to tell Tom to make the fight?

              We've went from $2mil is a lowball to $10 mil is a lowball to $15 mil is a lowball. Canelo should give him 100% and fight him for free. This guy can't even generate $15 mil in revenue himself but his promotion thinks they're worth 40% of the promotion? This isn't even the biggest fight out there for Canelo. He's got options. GGG doesn't. He won't even be on PPV without Canelo but Canelo will continue fight PPV with or without him. The double standards is amazing!!!
              listen, scouring the internet day after day trying to find obscure information about fight negotiations doesnt make you an expert. It just means you have too much time on your hands and might want to consider getting a hobby.

              And nobody believes this nonsense you are spewing about K2 demanding 40%. Even Loeffler isnt that ******

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                Holyfield took $12 Mil to fight Tyson and made $32mil in the rematch. This isn't a bigger fight than Holyfield vs Tyson. A couple months ago GGG said Canelo would lowball him with a $2 mil offer. Now $15 mil is a lowball? This is on Loeffler wanting a bigger piece of the pie of the promotion. GGG better tell Tom to get lost and take the $15 mil

                thanks Cobra. You've caused a ruckus!

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                  So GGG is big enough to get a 40% split but isn't big enough to tell his promoter to make the fight? GGG is big enough to reject a fight with Ward because Ward isn't a draw but he's not big enough to tell his promoter to make the Canelo fight? So GGG is big enough (now I'm using Loeffler talking points) to sell out arenas on both coasts, sell more tickets at MSG than Cotto, sell out the O2 in the UK, but he isn't big enough to tell Tom to make the fight?

                  We've went from $2mil is a lowball to $10 mil is a lowball to $15 mil is a lowball. Canelo should give him 100% and fight him for free. This guy can't even generate $15 mil in revenue himself but his promotion thinks they're worth 40% of the promotion? This isn't even the biggest fight out there for Canelo. He's got options. GGG doesn't. He won't even be on PPV without Canelo but Canelo will continue fight PPV with or without him. The double standards is amazing!!!
                  THE FIGHT CAN'T BE MADE ASSH'LE, THERE ARE LIKE 9 MONTHS LEFT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 2017, THE DATE CANELO CHOSE.

                  Keep buying the bull**** you read on internet. The fight will be signed a few months before that. Not 1 year before that... and in the mean time they are negotiating it, with no hurry I guess.

                  Will you ever STFU you ****** jealous hater?

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                    Loeffler and Sanchez both like to talk.

                    I'm sure they would have spoken up by now if the offer contained any stipulations.
                    You think they automatically comment on hearsay without a source on a delicate matter such as this? Are you naive?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                      Yes, because that's how business is done...

                      Oscar said they have offered him an incredible deal several times, he didn't shy away from anything. Golden Boy have put their offer into the public domain, the other side have not refuted it.
                      He did huh? What does he mean with this 'incredible deal'? You dont know and since Oscar is a part in this, he is hardly a reliable source as empirical evidence for the truth.

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