Comments Thread For: Kovalev's Promoter Reacts To Andre Ward Wanting More Money

[billeau2]

Except he was greatly overpaid for his first fight with Kovalev. Keith Idec has detailed it in articles and on twitter that there was a total loss especially on Roc Nation's part.

That's no one's fault except Roc Nation's because they decided to pay him out of pocket for a fight that didn't generate all that much.

The reason boxing is for the big boys is unless you come from the Don King Arum era, you have to have lots of money to build up a fighter. You have to market the fighter so the casuals, the ethnic fans who know boxing will pay. If you look at this fight as advertising for Ward, its not a loss anymore than an advertiser pays a premium for eyeballs advertising in the Super Bowl.

The problem, something Daggum has pointed out which I wholly agree with, is that there are not many fights on the horizon for Ward. To make money he would have to probably go down and fight GG much as that makes no sense. After Floyd had his breakout fight with big draw Oscar he had other guys to fight...Ward doesn't. So you build him up and hope some big fights come along, but from where?

[LoadedWraps]

I hate when I see so many ppl that don't get certain things. It's annoying. Some of y'all dumb af or just trolls.

[Shadoww702]

Nah.

Jay-Z shouldn't have gotten in the business. Look at what is happening to the fighters he got: Rigo, Andrade, Ward...they're either being shunned or they are in the middle of bad deals (especially Rigo and Andrade).

Cotto should not have signed with them in the first place because once he left Top Rank, he could have been his own promoter. He had enough star power.

Jay-Z SUKS as a boxing promoter!!! He did Jack SHT to help promote Cotto/Canelo. He didn't even make one appearance.

[PunchyPotorff]

Why does Duva keep chirping? All Ward said was that he would only agree to the right deal for him. She has no clue what that means to him but seemingly feels the need to talk about a potential money issue that has nothing to do with her.

You guys need to wake up some day and realize the scribes are constantly asking promoters and fighters for comments. It's what scribes do. OK?

As for Duva, she's just answering questions posed to her. If she got the reputation of refusing interviews, it would hurt her promotional company in the grand scheme of things. And like she said, the figures have already been agreed upon. So Human Sleeping Pill Ward needs to just shut up with his stoo-pidd demands and be the lamb going to the KO slaughter and do it. Be a man for once.

[big_james10]

Ward: I want $8 million to fight a rematch with Kovalev or I will retire. Then, I will come out of retirement in one year, sign with Al Haymon and fight Julio Caesar Chavez at 187 in a PPV fight.

I don't care much for Kathy Duva, but if I were her, I would force Ward to retire.

[Ake-Dawg]

You guys need to wake up some day and realize the scribes are constantly asking promoters and fighters for comments. It's what scribes do. OK?

As for Duva, she's just answering questions posed to her. If she got the reputation of refusing interviews, it would hurt her promotional company in the grand scheme of things. And like she said, the figures have already been agreed upon. So Human Sleeping Pill Ward needs to just shut up with his stoo-pidd demands and be the lamb going to the KO slaughter and do it. Be a man for once.

What demands my friend? That's what I'm getting at regarding Duva chirping. What money demands did Ward make that has her speaking about Roc Nation.

[PunchyPotorff]

Kovalev needs to drop her after the "his deal is based on reality" comment. How does a champion make 3 mil less than the Challenger... He made 40% of what his opponent did, she couldn't explain that away to any fighter born in the US for sure.

Probably would be a good idea to look over the contract fully before commenting like that. Human Sleeping Pill Ward knows how pathetic he does at the box office for all his fights. He just wanted to tap as much money as possible, trying to act like Diva Cotto in negotiations. And will likely balk for more in the rematch, destroying a great fight for we fans to check out. And he found a fool to bow for his wacko demands: his promoter.

[PunchyPotorff]

Its an investment, not a loss. Look at Floyd. Same knocks as Ward, but eventually after fighting oscar de la renta lingeria model, he broke out economically. Ward is markatable as well, its getting the casual segment involved with the fights, generating interest...it takes money to make money.

Ward is ready for a financial break out but will not do so getting low paychecks. and before anyone mentions Oakland, Las Vegas is not so much different!

Difference: Ward has NEVER and will NEVER do anything much at the box office. True, Floydie's fights drew the crowds mostly by fans wanting to see him lose... but Ward can't even get that bump. He's a boring fighter to watch, just like Floydie was, and can't get a bump anywhere. That's textbook boring. He isn't worth 'legend' paychecks.

[aboutfkntime]

You guys need to wake up some day and realize the scribes are constantly asking promoters and fighters for comments. It's what scribes do. OK?

As for Duva, she's just answering questions posed to her. If she got the reputation of refusing interviews, it would hurt her promotional company in the grand scheme of things. And like she said, the figures have already been agreed upon. So Human Sleeping Pill Ward needs to just shut up with his stoo-pidd demands and be the lamb going to the KO slaughter and do it. Be a man for once.

didn't you say that last time ?

I say that Ward does not get KO'd..... what are we gonna bet?

[aboutfkntime]

The reason boxing is for the big boys is unless you come from the Don King Arum era, you have to have lots of money to build up a fighter. You have to market the fighter so the casuals, the ethnic fans who know boxing will pay. If you look at this fight as advertising for Ward, its not a loss anymore than an advertiser pays a premium for eyeballs advertising in the Super Bowl.

The problem, something Daggum has pointed out which I wholly agree with, is that there are not many fights on the horizon for Ward. To make money he would have to probably go down and fight GG much as that makes no sense. After Floyd had his breakout fight with big draw Oscar he had other guys to fight...Ward doesn't. So you build him up and hope some big fights come along, but from where?

Chavez, even Stevenson in Canada would make money.