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  • #21
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    I also had Kov winning because of the KD and I scored the 10th for him. What you discuss in this post has been lost in all the BS whining here on NSB.

    Ward and his corner had the perfect fight plan-they attacked Kov's body and fought on the inside where Kov was extremely weak. He turned Kov from an aggressor to a holder.

    Now I don't know if Kov can improve at his age but I know if they fight in NYC with a ref that doesn't allow holding (like the guy that reffed wlad's last fight in MSG) then IMO it will be difficult for Kov.

    Although, if Ward gets to cocky, Kov can touch his chin and end it because he never really caught Ward flush.
    If the saying is true: "You can't teach an old dog new tricks," Kov got problems! He's still dangerous when he's at distance, but you're right, Ward took all the aggression out of him with body shots! I think this is a trilogy in the making! However, all that said, I'm not paying $70 to watch it!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      If the saying is true: "You can't teach an old dog new tricks," Kov got problems! He's still dangerous when he's at distance, but you're right, Ward took all the aggression out of him with body shots! I think this is a trilogy in the making! However, all that said, I'm not paying $70 to watch it!
      I going to buy the rematch. I am not however going to purchase Canelo/Chavez jr if they do it or Cotto/Kirkland.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
        Kovalev's inside game was non-existent, which is why Ward got the decision. I still think Kov won the fight, but he definitely didn't have an inside game, and his stamina was not that great either! I blame JDJ!
        No he got the decision because he was the home fighter fighting in front of local judges. I don't begrudge Ward getting the nod because the fight was close. I had Kovalev winning by 2 points or 2 so. I think Kovalev largely neutralized Ward's inside game. I think the lack of punches coming from Ward was a testament to that. The problem was that Kovalevs work rate was also pretty low.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
          He did at least initially, he was tying Ward up well but he seemed to get tired from all the wrestling and grappling. Still Ward's inside game was no were near as effective as it normally is.
          it wasn't the wrestling what tired kovalev, it was them body shots doe....

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          • #25
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            I going to buy the rematch. I am not however going to purchase Canelo/Chavez jr if they do it or Cotto/Kirkland.
            Thank GOD for the 2017 PBC schedule! The only PPV fights I would buy in 2017 would be Pacquiao vs. Crawford and Canelo vs. GGG. I just think that Kirkland and Chavez Jr. will have serious problems with weight. Have a blessed holiday fam!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View Post
              No he got the decision because he was the home fighter fighting in front of local judges. I don't begrudge Ward getting the nod because the fight was close. I had Kovalev winning by 2 points or 2 so. I think Kovalev largely neutralized Ward's inside game. I think the lack of punches coming from Ward was a testament to that. The problem was that Kovalevs work rate was also pretty low.
              For those of you who think Andre Ward got love in Vegas because he was an American, you're crazy! That's like me saying that the NYPD would show me (an African-American Retired U.S. Navy Chief from the Bronx) love because I'm a veteran! Things don't work like that! Kovalev and Golovkin would probably get more love in Brooklyn than me and Andre Ward! This is the land of Donald Trump!

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              • #27
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                I also had Kov winning because of the KD and I scored the 10th for him. What you discuss in this post has been lost in all the BS whining here on NSB.

                Ward and his corner had the perfect fight plan-they attacked Kov's body and fought on the inside where Kov was extremely weak. He turned Kov from an aggressor to a holder.

                Now I don't know if Kov can improve at his age but I know if they fight in NYC with a ref that doesn't allow holding (like the guy that reffed wlad's last fight in MSG) then IMO it will be difficult for Kov.

                Although, if Ward gets to cocky, Kov can touch his chin and end it because he never really caught Ward flush.
                Exactly!! This in itself is funny though since many claimed it would be Ward doing all the clinching. Ward was trying to work on the inside where Mob was just holding.

                I had a for Kov the first time I watched it, and Ward the second time from the video recorded from the seats. Sergey needs to work on his stamina if he wants to win a rematch. Ward will need to start off quicker on his end and sTay away from move power. There should absolutely be a rematch though.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
                  it wasn't the wrestling what tired kovalev, it was them body shots doe....
                  I think it was a combination of both. Regardless, his lack of inside game cost him the fight because Ward was able to score to the body and Kovalev was wasting a lot of energy wrestling instead of actually trying to work inside.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    I also had Kov winning because of the KD and I scored the 10th for him. What you discuss in this post has been lost in all the BS whining here on NSB.

                    Ward and his corner had the perfect fight plan-they attacked Kov's body and fought on the inside where Kov was extremely weak. He turned Kov from an aggressor to a holder.

                    Now I don't know if Kov can improve at his age but I know if they fight in NYC with a ref that doesn't allow holding (like the guy that reffed wlad's last fight in MSG) then IMO it will be difficult for Kov.

                    Although, if Ward gets to cocky, Kov can touch his chin and end it because he never really caught Ward flush.
                    You think if the ref doesn't allow holding, that will help Ward?

                    Lol you guys do not understand boxing. You think Ward fought inside while Kovalev held. How do you think Ward got inside a much more powerful puncher in the first place lol? What you think he just ducked in with high guard, threw some body shots, back to high guard, threw some shots, back to high guard, right next to Kovalev, without taking shots back and getting hurt? You are delusional. The only way Ward could get inside in the first place was using the hook-and-reel-in. Duck in, grab Kovalev, pull him in, throw a shot, then hold Kovalev's arms so he can't throw back, etc etc etc etc. Ward's entire inside game is based on hitting and holding at the same time. If you just hit, but you don't hold, then you get hit back. The other guy's arms are free and he just has to step back two inches and drill you. Ward can't exchange shots with Kovalev like that so his entire inside game is predicated on holding.

                    The only holding Kovalev did was when Ward came in low with his head, so Kovalev had to protect his chin from Kovalev's head coming up, so he put his arm over Ward's head. That's it. And it was nullifying all Ward's illegal tactics, but because the ref was in the tank for Ward, he only warned Sergey until Sergey got pressured to stop, allowing Ward to get inside more and hit and hold, but still not nearly enough to win the fight. Ward even got punished for trying to fight inside during the 12th round when he got hurt with an inside body shot. Ward never hurt Kovalev once inside or outside but you still want to give him all this credit?

                    Like i said, no offense, but either you don't understand what you watched, or you're delusional. Just watch 10 minutes of this you will see what I mean guaranteed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9UVJ-taoeQ

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Edward90 View Post
                      She needs to stop. And everyone who agrees with these comments also needs to stop. From 10-12, there was nothing that made me think that Kov had figured something out. You can debate the outcome of the fight, but statements like that take away people's credibility. Kov obviously had more success in the first half of the fight than any other point in the fight. Why make these statements? It's just not a good look. Let's get this rematch cracking, so we can see who's the king of the hill.
                      you dont think Kov won the 10th round clearly??????????????????????

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