Originally posted by Eff Pandas
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One of the main points I've agreed with is the fact that they all can't be built up like Mayweather.
You can't have 50 Mayweather's, it just won't work.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostYou're bringing up good managers. Haymon is a great manager but we're talking about promoting. All the managers you named have their fighters signed to a promoter. But what do you think about the point I made about promoters not advocating for fighters that aren't with them? I gave three examples, Dibella-Jacobs. Schaeffer-Charlo, DeGale-Hearn. So how do you overcome the problem of nobody advocating for the fighters? Hire a PR firm?
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Originally posted by HanzGruber View Postthey dont need a promotor even.. ive said pbc needs a front man and richard is perfect for it.. lou doesnt know how to talk to people. Rich is the perfect dana white for pbc
In lieu of that I think PBC needed to or needs to incorporate more side programming to get people acquianted with boxers better unlike those ****ty ads they were showing where every other round I'd see Jacobs talking about surviving cancer. Hell man a reality show on Bounce would probably help with specific guys. Have the "Charlo Brothers in LA" show or something. Have the Dirrell brothers or other cats come visit them. Have a spanish language reality show with Erislandy Lara. His wife becomes more famous then him probably, but more people watch Lara fights regardless.
Whatever the case you need more of a streamlined product or you need more emotions involved. And **** probably both.
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Right now fighters have to really take the lead in their promotion the way PBC is set up. That can work for some guys but, and Haymon should know this not everyone want to be all out there in the media.
As an aside I think the New York thing has really hurt PBC because Dibella was their best promoter and he has kind of been taken out of action as he had to figure out his own business with his base of operations not being open for business to him.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostCharlo himself or Leija Battah who work that region for PBC as I recall.
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Originally posted by Chollo Vista View PostOne of the main points I've agreed with is the fact that they all can't be built up like Mayweather.
You can't have 50 Mayweather's, it just won't work.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostI think Lou is the Dana of boxing, just without the same job title. Those two are brothers from different mothers. But I definitely agree with your point that PBC needs a front man of some sort to better tell the story & control the narrative of their boxers & the fights those boxers are involved in.
In lieu of that I think PBC needed to or needs to incorporate more side programming to get people acquianted with boxers better unlike those ****ty ads they were showing where every other round I'd see Jacobs talking about surviving cancer. Hell man a reality show on Bounce would probably help with specific guys. Have the "Charlo Brothers in LA" show or something. Have the Dirrell brothers or other cats come visit them. Have a spanish language reality show with Erislandy Lara. His wife becomes more famous then him probably, but more people watch Lara fights regardless.
Whatever the case you need more of a streamlined product or you need more emotions involved. And **** probably both.
Boxing wives~ on whatever station because I guarantee that show would be nuts.
A contender like show on FS1
A PBC news sort of show monthly or bi-weekly probably on FS1 can do it after the Tuesday fights.
Yea they need to start making other programming to really get their guys out there, because that will actually allow for guys to promote themselves better.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostGood Management and a Good PR Firm would be better than a Promoter, these Promoters other than Bob Arum and Eddie Hearn, WTF are they doing for these fighters exactly? This aint Pre Internet in which you need to be with the right Promotion to get Endorsements and on the Coverage of RING Magazine and other Boxing Magazine, now yes fighters can jump on the internet and promote themselves which is why this new mentality of not having a promoter is becoming popular with young fighters who are not so quick to sign with a promotion when they turn pro. You should work with a Promoter on a fight to fight bases why do they need to sign with them long term?
If I were his promoter I would put out an all out media blitz.
"We want the Canelo fight. That's the only fight we want right now. They're the top two 154lbers. He picked a nobody and fought him in Texas. Jermall is from Texas and wants to put on the fight for the fans in Texas. We can meet him at 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, or 160. Weight isn't an issue for us and we won't turn down $10 mil or even a quarter of that to make the fight happen"
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