Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Jacobs Deal Won't Be Done Today; 12/17 Purse Bid Looms
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Lying all the damn time to make "a guy who doesn't even know you exist" appear a tiny bit better to some people on a forum.Comment
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Isaac Clarke...as a boxing fan, I don't see any lies that kafkod said that you refer to as lies. That 1st supposed lie that you say kafkod made was that GGG was awarded the WBA regular title. Sure, GGG didn't fight for the world title. But Sturm didn't want to fight for that title either. GGG was awarded the title the way a candidate wins an office unopposed. Under the WBA's own rules, the WBA regular title that GGG won was a legit world title. It's not GGG's fault that the WBA made 2 titles. Not his fault. Therefore, GGG was a champion. kafkod's argument is both valid and true.
The 2nd supposed lie that you believe is a lie is actually conjecture. No one knows the exact truth but Ward and his camp. But the fact remains that the last time Ward fought at 168 was 2 years prior to the Smith fight. 2 years. And then the Smith fight was done at 172. With evidence like that, any logical person would have to lean toward the statement that "Ward doesn't fight at 168 anymore." For sure he can't fight at 168 now. But we have no real evidence to say that Ward could have fought at 168 back when they negotiated for a GGG fight. No one knows for sure because the guy was neither active or fighting at 168. You're stretching it to make it a lie in order to throw hate kafkod's way? I don't understand your motivation. Who cares anymore about a failed negotiation? Because if you want to put blame on GGG's camp, half of the blame goes to Ward's camp. No two ways around it. Both sides failed. Move on.
As boxing fans, we should always be looking to bolster the sport. Sport must always come before boxer. The fact that anyone spends so much time trying to nitpick what someone writes rather than nitpicking the actions of boxers we want to see fight is just plain sop****ric. It serves no point other than to bolster your own pride. Talk about the boxing. Isaac, if you want to argue against the negotiating ability of Loeffler and K2, show us evidence. It wasn't that long ago that Loeffler got a fight deal against a Haymon fighter who was GGG's mandatory. Dominic Wade anyone? The only difference for this round of negotiations is the fighter. Maybe you should examine what Danny Jacobs is doing that is making this negotiation so hard, huh? Mental gymnastics aside, it doesn't matter anymore. The purse bid has been ordered. Jacobs either takes the fight, or vacates. 25% is all he's getting.Comment
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Yes, it is better to beat a boxer under professional rules. Always. Amateur rules is just that. Amateur. Ndam losing in the Olympics means nothing except that he's not that great of a boxer. But that doesn't mean he can't win in a boxing match under professional rules. A win in a pro boxing fight will always be better. Case closed.Comment
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Isaac Clarke...as a boxing fan, I don't see any lies that kafkod said that you refer to as lies. That 1st supposed lie that you say kafkod made was that GGG was awarded the WBA regular title. Sure, GGG didn't fight for the world title. But Sturm didn't want to fight for that title either. GGG was awarded the title the way a candidate wins an office unopposed. Under the WBA's own rules, the WBA regular title that GGG won was a legit world title. It's not GGG's fault that the WBA made 2 titles. Not his fault. Therefore, GGG was a champion. kafkod's argument is both valid and true.
The 2nd supposed lie that you believe is a lie is actually conjecture. No one knows the exact truth but Ward and his camp. But the fact remains that the last time Ward fought at 168 was 2 years prior to the Smith fight. 2 years. And then the Smith fight was done at 172. With evidence like that, any logical person would have to lean toward the statement that "Ward doesn't fight at 168 anymore." For sure he can't fight at 168 now. But we have no real evidence to say that Ward could have fought at 168 back when they negotiated for a GGG fight. No one knows for sure because the guy was neither active or fighting at 168. You're stretching it to make it a lie in order to throw hate kafkod's way? I don't understand your motivation. Who cares anymore about a failed negotiation? Because if you want to put blame on GGG's camp, half of the blame goes to Ward's camp. No two ways around it. Both sides failed. Move on.
As boxing fans, we should always be looking to bolster the sport. Sport must always come before boxer. The fact that anyone spends so much time trying to nitpick what someone writes rather than nitpicking the actions of boxers we want to see fight is just plain sop****ric. It serves no point other than to bolster your own pride. Talk about the boxing. Isaac, if you want to argue against the negotiating ability of Loeffler and K2, show us evidence. It wasn't that long ago that Loeffler got a fight deal against a Haymon fighter who was GGG's mandatory. Dominic Wade anyone? The only difference for this round of negotiations is the fighter. Maybe you should examine what Danny Jacobs is doing that is making this negotiation so hard, huh? Mental gymnastics aside, it doesn't matter anymore. The purse bid has been ordered. Jacobs either takes the fight, or vacates. 25% is all he's getting.
He said Golovkin won the title and was downgraded to regular champ. = Lies
He said Ward and Virgil said he couldn't make 168 at the time they offered Golovkin a fight. = Lies
He said Golovkin said he would fight Ward in 2017. = Lies
He lied, it's clear for everyone to see. He lied in this thread and when called out for it lied again. The guy is a compulsive liar.
There's many more times too.Comment
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Yes, Brook was heavier than GGG at every weigh-in. Even fight night:
http://www.boxingscene.com/gennady-g...eighin--108606Comment
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