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  • HeroBando
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    #131
    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
    You continue to fail to explain why the fight would be delayed. A random GGG fight in December 10 and a Jacobs fight in March 18 is just as much time as there is between a March 18 Jacobs fight and a June Kazakhstan fight. K2 is a promoter with a single fighter and all the time in the world. Why would he only have 8 week notice to talk to someone? He could have been talking to various people since even before the Brook fight if he wanted to.

    Jacobs wants to be a king just as much as Canelo, or pretends to want to be a king just as much as Canelo pretends. Canelo situation proves that forcing someone to vacate or giving them extra pretend time to negotiate makes no difference for when that fighter will fight GGG.

    And you continue to fail to acknowledge GGG could have taken an interim fight simply by requesting it.
    He could have, but then he'd be obliged to allow for a Jacobs interim fight. And Jacobs is not fighting Ggg in 3 months, heck they admitted they were never ready for December date cause they need a 12 week camp. And that's where you can blame them, they should have said that before wasting a month in negotiations.

    I just don't get your point. You complain about his weak resume. He tries hard to bolster it with a quality mando defense, and you're complaining about him not fighting more no names and putting this off.

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    • Robi13
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      #132
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      Then don't go complaining about Ggg not fighting anyone when your guy refused to fight him. But if it's any comfort, so did contender 1, 2, 3. So Canelo is not extra cowardly. Too bad the standards for him are higher, being the face of boxing and all. Belt forfeit though.
      No complaints from me, Its just funny that you are too ****** to understand anything lol! If GGG canelo doesnt happen GGG clearly has more to lose. Boss life though

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      • HeroBando
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        #133
        Originally posted by Robi13
        No complaints from me, Its just funny that you are too ****** to understand anything lol! If GGG canelo doesnt happen GGG clearly has more to lose. Boss life though
        Why are you lying? That's all you do here, come here to blame Ggg for the other guys ducking.

        Look dumba$$, Canelo has been annointed as the face of boxing way back. He can't be that while ducking such a dominant, popular champ and waiting him out. He can't be losing face all the time, trying to dodge the biggest fight in boxing

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        • QballLobo
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          #134
          This is what happens when 2 B sides get together and try and make a fight. Neither wants to admit they are the B side and nothing happens. I think Jacobs drops the belt after a purse bid is officially made.

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          • _Maxi
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            #135
            Originally posted by QballLobo
            This is what happens when 2 B sides get together and try and make a fight. Neither wants to admit they are the B side and nothing happens. I think Jacobs drops the belt after a purse bid is officially made.
            So you think Jacobs is a coward for rejecting a near 2 million offer?

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            • HeroBando
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              #136
              Originally posted by QballLobo
              This is what happens when 2 B sides get together and try and make a fight. Neither wants to admit they are the B side and nothing happens. I think Jacobs drops the belt after a purse bid is officially made.
              Poor effort, as usual. A side is relative, dummy. And here there's a clear a side. The belts, the mando split, the ratings and gate numbers, all one sided.

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              • DoktorSleepless
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                #137
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                He could have, but then he'd be obliged to allow for a Jacobs interim fight.
                No, he wouldn't. You're acting as if Jacobs has some ungodly amount of leverage here. The guy who is wiling the pull the purse bid trigger is the guy with the leverage. It was Jacob's idea to delay the fight by 3 months, and Golovkin should hold them to that. Simple as that. Jacobs gets to delay the fight slightly in exchange for letting GGG have an interim fight. That would be the deal. If they don't agree, force purse bid and strip Jacobs because they were never serious.

                I just don't get your point. You complain about his weak resume. He tries hard to bolster it with a quality mando defense, and you're complaining about him not fighting more no names and putting this off.
                I'm responding to general sentiment of "oh poor Golovkin, evil WBA and Jacobs is wasting GGG's time." And I'm also confused why Loeffler, a guy unique in his strategy to keeping fighters active (a strategy I support), is suddenly turning is back on that for a Jacobs caliber fighter especially when it was completely unnecessary. And I'm confused why you, a guy who supported the strategy, is suddenly throwing every excuse not to stick with it.
                Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 12-08-2016, 01:30 AM.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                  No, he wouldn't. You're acting as if Jacobs has some ungodly amount of leverage here. The guy who is wiling the pull the purse bid trigger is the guy with the leverage. It was Jacob's idea to delay the fight by 3 months, and Golovkin should hold them to that. Simple as that. Jacobs gets to delay the fight slightly in exchange for letting GGG have an interim fight. That would be the deal. If they don't agree, force purse bid and strip Jacobs because they were never serious.


                  I'm responding to general sentiment of "oh poor Golovkin, evil WBA and Jacobs is wasting GGG's time." And I'm also confused why Loeffler, a guy unique in his strategy to keeping fighters active (a strategy I support), is suddenly turning is back on that for a Jacobs caliber fighter especially when it was completely unnecessary. And I'm confused why you, a guy who supported the strategy, is suddenly throwing every excuse not to stick with it.
                  It's team Jacobs that requested an interim fight lol. Team Ggg didn't want interim fights. How can they ask for interim fight after denying Jacobs? And now it's Jacobs caliber fighter, but you were just trying to draw some silly Jacobs Canelo analogy. You're trying too hard. I'm guessing it's some Lara angle?

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                  • DoktorSleepless
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    It's team Jacobs that requested an interim fight lol. Team Ggg didn't want interim fights. How can they ask for interim fight after denying Jacobs?
                    WBA would approve it as long as both sides are in agreement. You know that.
                    And now it's Jacobs caliber fighter, but you were just trying to draw some silly Jacobs Canelo analogy.
                    I don't see your point.

                    You're trying too hard. I'm guessing it's some Lara angle?
                    The most annoying thing about talking with you is always questions's people motivation. Can't have an earnest conversation with you. If there's some disagreement, I must be a paid shill or something. I didn't bring up Lara or imply Lara exactly because I didn't want to have that conversation again.

                    My point was about fighter activity, and fighter activity alone. If GGG can't stick with, what hope does everyone else have?
                    Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 12-08-2016, 02:00 AM.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                      WBA would approve it as long as both sides are in agreement. You know that.

                      I don't see your point.


                      The most annoying thing about talking with you is always questions's people motivation. Can't have an earnest conversation with you. If there's some disagreement, I must be a paid shill or something. I didn't bring up Lara or imply Lara exactly because I didn't want to have that conversation again.

                      My point was about fighter activity, and fighter activity alone.
                      So team Jacobs would agree on an interim fight for Ggg but not for them?

                      You were saying they should have him stripped and then have some protracted negotiations and loose long term commitments with Jacobs (the next face of boxing), Canelo style, then dismissed Jacobs as a nobody worth giving up a Korobov date for.

                      Hey I didn't say paid shill, not to you at least. Maybe you just like the guy a lot. Kinda like me being a Ggg fan, just with much less to be excited about.

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