Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Has 'Postive Outlook' That Jacobs Deal is Close

[Shadoww702]

I think they'll offer him $3 million, and Saunders will jump at it! I think Saunders knows he has a better chance of beating Canelo than GGG!

Saunders has ZERO chance of beating GGG or Canelo... Ok maybe 5% against CanYellow.

[Shadoww702]

Posters on here say Golovkin is carefully managed. There may be some truth in that. I'd say Canelo is far more carefully managed.

He is not going to be put in with any dangerous MW and earn $10 million when he can be put in with Goolovkin and earn $40 million. So that rules out Jacobs for sure. Lemieux too. And probably Saunders although Saunders could win a 12 rounder 8-4 in Vegas or Texas and he's not getting a decision.

I'd expect him to go in with Wade, Rosario or someone on that level in May and then GGG in September , if at all.

I bet you your wrong. It's most likely going to be Saunders or Lemuix next. He needs Saunders belt if he's going to fight GGG.

[Bronx2245]

Posters on here say Golovkin is carefully managed. There may be some truth in that. I'd say Canelo is far more carefully managed.

He is not going to be put in with any dangerous MW and earn $10 million when he can be put in with Goolovkin and earn $40 million. So that rules out Jacobs for sure. Lemieux too. And probably Saunders although Saunders could win a 12 rounder 8-4 in Vegas or Texas and he's not getting a decision.

I'd expect him to go in with Wade, Rosario or someone on that level in May and then GGG in September , if at all.

Canelo has already fought Trout, Mayweather, Angulo, Kirkland, Lara, and Cotto, and he's only 25! He might be carefully managed but his resume is WAY better than GGG!

[angkag]

Just had a think about this about what might be going through Team GGG's head (not going to go out to trash anyone, too easy, no point).

1) Jacobs doesn't have a belt that GGG particularly wants, the 'regular' WBA belt is fairly irrelevant

2) But, GGG DOES want to unify the division, so he has to follow the WBA rules to play out the negotiations with Jacobs else he loses the WBA belt he already has

3) The big prize (payday) is Canelo, not Jacobs. Jacobs is simply in the way of the big prize.

4) Jacobs could be seen as quite high risk. Jacobs is American, will be fighting on home soil, cancer survivor. Team GGG could be considering that all Jacobs would have to do to win a round would be to not get knocked out, and put up some (any) resistance. Team GGG might consider that the risk is that unless GGG KOs him, he might get shafted on the cards (and the Kovalev/Ward judging won't have helped lessen that perception).
- basically Jacobs just has to go 12 and NOT get knocked around the ring in each round to take this

5) Team GGG might therefore consider that Jacobs is actually too high a risk, as they feel the cards are stacked against them. And while GGG would probably get the KO, if he didn't, too high a risk that they get shafted and lose the Canelo payday.

6) So Team GGG might NOT want Jacobs at all. One way to avoid it is to stick strictly to the WBA requirements, which is 75/25, and if Jacobs walks, then phew, the risk is gone, and Team GGG can say 'wasn't us who walked'.

Bottom line is they may not want to offer any more than the 25% required as they are happy for Jacobs to walk away anyway.

If there IS a bad guy, it might just be the judging system again and the fear of a biased outcome.

[MantisToboggan]

Can we stop with this whole "No one wants to fight GGG" nonsense? Those commie promoters overprice GGG and underpay opponents. That's it. Golden Boy offered GGG 10 mil, which is twice as much than he's EVER made, add in that GGG's camp has said "it's not about the money"... so... what's the problem...? Fight Canelo for 10 mil ( "kick his ass easily"... as the many and many Golovkin fanboys think he'll do) and become the biggest draw in boxing. But that won't happen, because even the most staunch Good Boy supporters know that Saul is Juuuuusssst fast enough, hits just hard enough, and boxes juuuuussssstttt well enough to cause him problems.

Fast enough to drop a belt and become GGG's b1tch, phag0t saul is hiding far far far away from GGG under the flat fee clause. If you willing to fight you go and fight did not stop brook or other fighters.

[MantisToboggan]

Canelo has already fought Trout, Mayweather, Angulo, Kirkland, Lara, and Cotto, and he's only 25! He might be carefully managed but his resume is WAY better than GGG!

He already got an L. Lara is trash , cotto is an old azz.

Now what?

[angkag]

Canelo has already fought Trout, Mayweather, Angulo, Kirkland, Lara, and Cotto, and he's only 25! He might be carefully managed but his resume is WAY better than GGG!

I agree with this, you can't fault Canelo's resume. Many do, but thats probably because they want to, if you look at the facts, he's gone in there tough, and you're right, he's still young (and learning and getting better).

The one big blot was the debacle with the belt he won off Cotto, and being put into a situation where he had to then drop the belt.

Said it before, and will keep saying it, but Team Canelo should have refused for the belt to be on the line in the Cotto fight. How hard would it have been to take the line 'MW is 160, this is a 155 fight, the belt SHOUDN'T be on the line here, that would be an insult to boxing. Canelo will be MW king, but he'll earn it at 160 where the belt belongs. End of'. Then Cotto is the one who has to drop the belt, while Canelo is the hero for standing up for the belts belonging where they indeed belong, at 160.

Then Canelo could have done what he should have done all along. Instead of the Smith fight, take on a lower top 10 guy at 160, with maybe another next 5 May, then GGG for all the belts end of 2017.

Canelo took a bad rap over what happened after Cotto as his team failed him in so many ways. They should never have put him in the position of having to drop the belt - it was totally predicatable, wtf were they thinking. 'ok, we get Cotto's belt, then what ?'. Did they just not think ? They think these little trinkets no-one cares about any more outweigh a Mexican dropping a belt rather than defending it ? Plain ****** is what it was, and I don't blame Canelo one bit - his team completely shafted him.

[BluDivision]

Does Canelo turned down a rematch with Cotto, a 8 figure payday, and chase BJS for the middleweight belt????

[Bronx2245]

He already got an L. Lara is trash , cotto is an old azz.

Now what?

Lomachenko already got an "L" and people believe he's P4P #1! Lara is trash? Really? Cotto is an "old azz" but GGG wanted to fight him rather than Andre Ward! Mayweather is even older, but GGG wanted that fight too! However Canelo faced them both! You can hate on Canelo all you want, but he's accomplished more before 25 than GGG has in his entire career!

[Bronx2245]

I agree with this, you can't fault Canelo's resume. Many do, but thats probably because they want to, if you look at the facts, he's gone in there tough, and you're right, he's still young (and learning and getting better).

The one big blot was the debacle with the belt he won off Cotto, and being put into a situation where he had to then drop the belt.

Said it before, and will keep saying it, but Team Canelo should have refused for the belt to be on the line in the Cotto fight. How hard would it have been to take the line 'MW is 160, this is a 155 fight, the belt SHOUDN'T be on the line here, that would be an insult to boxing. Canelo will be MW king, but he'll earn it at 160 where the belt belongs. End of'. Then Cotto is the one who has to drop the belt, while Canelo is the hero for standing up for the belts belonging where they indeed belong, at 160.

Then Canelo could have done what he should have done all along. Instead of the Smith fight, take on a lower top 10 guy at 160, with maybe another next 5 May, then GGG for all the belts end of 2017.

Canelo took a bad rap over what happened after Cotto as his team failed him in so many ways. They should never have put him in the position of having to drop the belt - it was totally predicatable, wtf were they thinking. 'ok, we get Cotto's belt, then what ?'. Did they just not think ? They think these little trinkets no-one cares about any more outweigh a Mexican dropping a belt rather than defending it ? Plain ****** is what it was, and I don't blame Canelo one bit - his team completely shafted him.

I blame the WBC for allowing a MW title to be on the line of a fight taking place @ 155! I blame Canelo and GBP for the nonsense during the post-fight with Khan! However, none of that erases his resume! This man has done more at 25 than most active fighters have done in their entire career!