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July 23, 2015:
Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds.
Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.
But, Golovkin's side viewed Froch and Chavez Jr. as HBO Pay-Per-View opportunities, while they don't see Ward in the same respect. And Ward is by far a more dangerous fight, and likely one of the few boxers between 160 to 168 who the oddsmakers would favor to beat Golovkin.
Sanchez is a little annoyed that Ward faced Chad Dawson - who at the time was the light heavyweight king - at the super middleweight limit. In Ward's defense, it was Dawson who pushed the idea of dropping down to 168 to fight Ward.
The pecking order has changed, says Sanchez, with his boxer standing in front as the A-side of the equation. Having said that, he believes a 50-50 agreement in weight is more than fair.
"We don't need Ward. Golovkin doesn't need Ward. Dawson needed Ward. The fact that he made Dawson come down to 168 kind of irks me. When [Golovkin's promoter] Tom [Loeffler] said 50-50, and me and Tom talked about it, he meant 50-50 all the way across. That was the reason why I said 50-50 and 50-50 means 164 - right in the middle. If they want the fight, come to what Golovkin is asking for," Sanchez told BoxingScene.com.
"I don't think Ward should have a problem making 164. He talked about fighting Mayweather at 160. Why is he talking about fighting Mayweather at 160 if he's not willing to fight Gennady at 164?"
"If they thought that it was in their best interest to fight Gennady at 164, then fight him - or else they can go about their way. For us, Golovkin is the A-fighter in this situation and I don't care what anybody says. It's not like Golovkin is asking him to come down to 160, like [Golovkin] was going to do for Mayweather and go to 154. We're asking him to meet us halfway. If he doesn't want to, that's okay - we'll just go on to the next one."
http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...int_friendly=1
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Originally posted by i'm a fun haver View PostThe fight that Ward supposedly wanted would've taken place after his tune ups and been around the time that Ward fought Alexander Brand.
Funny how after the Brand fight, Ward said that he can't even make 168 anymore and that it's not easy making 175.
Con artist Ward sending a bull**** offer to fight at a weight he hasn't made since 2013 and(in his own words)can't make anymore.
You dummies still believe his bull**** lol
Ward never wanted that fight. All he did was play the name game, just like all those other ****house fighters.
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Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View PostAnother fanboy talking nonsense. How much does Ward walk around at? What do you think his natural weight is? Or to put it another way what do you think he re-hydrates to on fight night? GGG doesn't re-hydrate past 170 on fight night, I bet most of the time its under 168. Ward struggles to make 175.
The IBF stipulates he can't go beyond 170. Of course he could if he wanted to.
He was so gaunt making 160 last time out people thought he was sick.
And since when does Ward have trouble making 175? He's tiny at the weight.
Typical GGG fanboi , expects everybody to move up to him , but he doesn't have to move up for anybody.
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Originally posted by Burt Saxby View Postlol..what an idiot.
The IBF stipulates he can't go beyond 170. Of course he could if he wanted to.
He was so gaunt making 160 last time out people thought he was sick.
And since when does Ward have trouble making 175? He's tiny at the weight.
Typical GGG fanboi , expects everybody to move up to him , but he doesn't have to move up for anybody.
Here straight from the horses mouth:
http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-ward-rules-out-fights-168-175-not-easy-make--107486
lol@being tiny at the weight, you do realize Ward won his gold medal at 175 right? Or are you one of those new Ward fanboys.
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Originally posted by Mr. Objectivity View Postdoesnt look good for ward's camp.
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Originally posted by LetOutTheCage View PostYet on fight-night he is often under 170. If it was such an issue for him with weight he would be at 170 on fight night for every fight.
Here straight from the horses mouth:
http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-war...y-make--107486
lol@being tiny at the weight, you do realize Ward won his gold medal at 175 right? Or are you one of those new Ward fanboys.
SMW's will fall under the LHW category as there is no SMW division in Olympic boxing.
Shaun Porter was a MW as an amateur and has a win over Danny Jacobs.
Is Porter a professional middle weight?
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Originally posted by Graz View PostI agree. After watching the Ward/Kovalev fight, I'm convinced Golovkin would beat Ward. In my opinion although Ward is very skilled he was exposed against the power of Kovalev. Golovkin would bring a world of trouble for Ward. I know a fight between them is unlikely to happen soon. Golovkin has to clean out his division first. I still think Ward won't want any part of Golovkin when the time comes. Just sayin.
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