Loma on his way has not past ward, kovalev and chocolatito p4p

[Hype job]

5/2/15. Ruined your life

11/19/16 closed the casket


Its OK ....you're a racist troll who likes to deflect what you do on others


Just admit you only root against black fighters....you won't

I'm as biased as any other race/nationality is. But I don't go out of my way to root against black fighters.

[sicko]

Why do we project guys who haven't fought anybody as p4p but for Loma some people want to wait? No I have Him Top 3-5 NOW because first of all a lot of the guys that are being projected so high I don't even think is all that great and don't have the Talent/Skills of Loma not even close! Loma has a style that will allow him to dominate for a VERY VERY Long time. Yeah he won't score big Knockouts much but he can put on entertaining boxing clinics

Roman Gonzalez was given P4P mostly based on PROJECTION which he has NOT lived up to IMO and should decline a little. GGG placement on most P4P list is based on Projection of what he can potentially do in big fights once guys grow a pair and fight him.

Ward, Kovalev, Crawford, Rigo, Frampton, just to name a few, all earned their status as P4P in the ring. Now so has Loma IMO!

[therealpugilist]

Why do we project guys who haven't fought anybody as p4p but for Loma some people want to wait? No I have Him Top 3-5 NOW because first of all a lot of the guys that are being projected so high I don't even think is all that great and don't have the Talent/Skills of Loma not even close! Loma has a style that will allow him to dominate for a VERY VERY Long time. Yeah he won't score big Knockouts much but he can put on entertaining boxing clinics

Who you got top 5?

[Combat Talk Radio]

oh right, so its now seen as better to struggle against an opponent than win every round against them, i see...

The irony is, if a fighter does struggle and wins the decision barely, people claim it was a gift. If they lose it barely, people claim it was a robbery.

Thus why straight, clear victories - whether straight ass whoopings or lopsided decisions - are the answer. I don't want to just remember that Fighter A won. I want to remember THE FIGHT.

I CLEARLY recall Hearns/Duran.
I CLEARLY recall Hagler/Hearns.
I CLEARLY recall Mayweather/Gatti.
I CLEARLY recall Mayweather/Pacquiao.
I CLEARLY recall Tyson/Gross.
I CLEARLY recall Tyson/Spinks.

I don't clearly recall Leonard/Hearns.
I don't clearly recall Hagler/Duran.
I don't clearly recall Mayweather/Castillo.
I don't clearly recall Mayweather/De La Hoya.
I don't clearly recall Tyson/Holyfield, except the Bite Fight.
I don't clearly recall Tyson/Lewis.

Boxing needs clear, decisive outcomes OR straight up drama. It's largely dying because those are rare nowadays.

[sicko]

Who you got top 5?

In No Particular Order:

Loma
Pacquiao (still active so he is still at the Top P4P IMO while I see most P4P rankings leaving him off because he lost to Mayweather?)
Ward
Kovalev
Crawford

Gonzalez (Still P4P one of the best but was given the Crown without earning it. Fighting and beating Estrada again IMO would solidify status as #1)

GGG (Needs big fights but Big Fights don't want any part of him which is not his fault but as soon as he DESTROYS Jacobs or any of the Top Guys at 160 that solidifies him as well)

Frampton (earned his status as P4P and probably fighter of the year beating Quigg and Santa Cruz)

Rigondeaux (not active enough so he is declining because of that IMO but when active and when it comes to pure boxing skills no question he is a Top P4P fighter)

[dannnnn]

He's definitely above Ward. Gonzalez and Kovalev are debatable.

This was an amazing win for Lomachenko that really affirmed how great he is. It was perceived as a 50/50 fight going in and he totally dominated it.

I'd probably rank him at no.2 behind Gonzalez right now but you can easily make a case for him being the best boxer in the world, he's that good.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Best skillset today.
Most dominating wins today.
PFP#1

[muslimer12]

Must suck to live in fantasy land


All the burthurt ward detractors popping up in a loma thread

114-113 official score

Many trainers and fighters had similar scores....I did too

No robbery, close fight....get over it lol

it was a robbery lol Loma showed what greatness really is

[Banderivets]

Loma needs a few more wins, a couple of defenses to be P4P #1

But I don't think there is a single serious boxing pundit who does not have him in his top 5 at the moment.

He has the skills to be considered #1, he just needs to prove it some more.

[IronDanHamza]

Ah gotcha. To each their own.

Out of curiosity, who are a few of your favorite fighters?

Of all time? Or current?

Of all time;

Harold Johnson
Carlos Monzon
Alexis Arguello
Floyd Mayweather
**** Tiger
Emile Griffith
Carlos Ortiz

Current;

Roman Gonzalez
Terrence Crawford
Canelo Alvarez
Manny Pacquaio
Sergey Kovalev
Anselmo Moreno
Danny Jacobs
Danny Garcia

Just to name a few, there aren't many guys currently that I'm an overly big fan of.