Loma on his way has not past ward, kovalev and chocolatito p4p

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #21
    Originally posted by BrometheusBob.
    Dam why wouldn't you be
    I just don't like his style he's very skilled but he's too herky jerky for me, paws with the jab too much like an amateur (similar to Rigondeaux)

    But don't get me wrong he's a really good fighter.

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      #22
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      I just don't like his style he's very skilled but he's too herky jerky for me, paws with the jab too much like an amateur (similar to Rigondeaux)

      But don't get me wrong he's a really good fighter.
      Ah gotcha. To each their own.

      Out of curiosity, who are a few of your favorite fighters?

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        #23
        Originally posted by bigdramashow
        they'd have lost to a salido type guy if they fought a fringe world level fighter in there 2nd fight. Hell kovalev drew to boone early on in career, ward got dropped by boone early on in career
        No you just say that Cuz loma lost
        Kevin Howard dropped Leonard....so what....he got up and won


        How will loma deal with getting dropped like ward, leonard did and claw his way back?


        How will loma deal with moving up and fighting a p4p entrant like kov?

        Will he lose vs the next rugged guy who gives no room? No respect?


        To many questions....they're proven ....big difference

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          #24
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          As of yet he hasn't fought a p4p or near type guy

          The eye test is awesome but you're only as good as who you fight


          He has 0 wins over the #1 guy in his division's

          While the other guys have fought several elite guys, unified belts etc
          You continue to confuse pound for pound with resume. To get credit for a win on a resume a fighter must actually beat a particular fighter. On rating fighters pound for pound the eye test is the only test required. Pound for pound is about how good for his weight you think a fighter is for his pounds right now and what you believe he can do. He doesn't have to have already done it. That would be his resume. Many would have considered Walters the best 130 pounder next to Loma going into their fight. I believe Walters was an elite fighter. He KOed Donaire when Donaire was an elite fighter very near the top of many pound for pound lists. In just a hand full of fights Loma has already soundly thrashed two world champions and Walters. His potential seems unlimited and potential is what pound for pound is mainly about. I agree his resume is not the equal of guys like Ward and Kovalev but pound for pound isn't resume.

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            #25
            We know all about your agenda OP.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Hype Job
              We know all about your agenda OP.
              What's my agenda

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                #27
                His inside game is his kryptonite. I knew coming in hecwill outclass every boxer puncher/range/mid range fighter they put in front of him. He will run boxing because there are few fighters with good inside skills

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  What's my agenda
                  Anti white.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    You continue to confuse pound for pound with resume. To get credit for a win on a resume a fighter must actually beat a particular fighter. On rating fighters pound for pound the eye test is the only test required. Pound for pound is about how good for his weight you think a fighter is for his pounds right now and what you believe he can do. He doesn't have to have already done it. That would be his resume. Many would have considered Walters the best 130 pounder next to Loma going into their fight. I believe Walters was an elite fighter. He KOed Donaire when Donaire was an elite fighter very near the top of many pound for pound lists. In just a hand full of fights Loma has already soundly thrashed two world champions and Walters. His potential seems unlimited and potential is what pound for pound is mainly about. I agree his resume is not the equal of guys like Ward and Kovalev but pound for pound isn't resume.
                    Pound for pound is a combination of eye test, resume, skills, and who could beat who if in same division

                    Loma is there in skill and eye test but the true test of skills is top opposition

                    Not that deep

                    He'll get there just not there yet. How will he deal with another rugged guy, how will he react win he is dropped, etc

                    These guys have been there, adversity ...all past those test ...loma isn't as tested so its premature to say he is the best p4p

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      Pound for pound is a combination of eye test, resume, skills, and who could beat who if in same division

                      Loma is there in skill and eye test but the true test of skills is top opposition

                      Not that deep

                      He'll get there just not there yet. How will he deal with another rugged guy, how will he react win he is dropped, etc

                      These guys have been there, adversity ...all past those test ...loma isn't as tested so its premature to say he is the best p4p
                      Which top contenders did Ward humiliate like Loma did to Walters? I mean literally toying with the guy.

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