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  • #21
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    nah, everyone just came to the conclusion that he is a worthless cretin at the same time
    LOL! I came to that conclusion after the first post of his I ever read. He's the Charlie Zelenoff of this site.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      waiting for the experts to tell us that Tszyu is wrong

      I'd like to hear about how Tszyu doesn't know how to score a fight, etc, etc.....
      Well he kind of said kovalev won...but since it was in the usa, he needed to win by a wider margin. He said if it was on neutral ground, ward wouldn't get the decision. I'm not sure if he was saying he personally thought kovalev lost, or he felt bad that he lost.

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      • #23
        I really hate how boxing "fans" react when somebody from across the lines says something that doesn't come across as blindly loyal to their nationality. Half you f*ggots only care about the result of this fight as purely a white vs. black thing. That is the last thought on Tszyu's mind as he gave his opinion. This is where agenda comes in to play.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
          At least Kovalev held his own against his wrestler, Hatton gave Tszyu that work.
          That was a old Tszyu in the Twilight of he Career. This is a prime Kov.

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          • #25
            100% agree with Tszyu Sergey must improve he really let the fight slip out of his hands.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Gentblue View Post
                That was a old Tszyu in the Twilight of he Career. This is a prime Kov.
                Tszyu was 34 when he fought Hatton, Kovalev is 33, like I said he got that work. At least Naz came back and fought again after MAB, Tszyu was to broken to even do that.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by frantic fighter View Post
                  Tszyu was 34 when he fought Hatton, Kovalev is 33, like I said he got that work. At least Naz came back and fought again after MAB, Tszyu was to broken to even do that.
                  Not trying to get in on your argument but did you really compare Kovalev right now to Kostya at the end of his career in his very last fight? Morales and Pac are close to the same age too but they're a decade apart in ring age.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                    Sounds like Tszyu is jealous of the accolades Kovalev is getting as a Russian. Tszyu even brings up his career to try to say "I was able to work hard and come back after my loss, so unless Kovalev can come back from his 'loss' quote unquote quote, I'm better." Reminds me of Marquez constantly badmouthing Canelo, and when some fighters badmouthed Floyd for reasons that weren't as legit as others.

                    Then he contradicts himself about how Ward is an American superstar and "idol of millions" (really? Then why don't they show up to his fights?) so Kovalev had to win 12-0 or whatever. That's an even worse argument than "you have to take it from the champ." The champ thing at least makes sense in terms of a tiebreaker. Like if a champ spends years collecting belts, and the deciding rounds are literally too close to call, then you either score the fight a draw so the champ keeps his belts, or give him the benefit of the doubt in a coin toss round. But you basically don't let the challenger take away someone's years of work just by fighting even with them, or being within 1 punch either way and it's hard to tell.

                    So that at least makes sense. But saying Kovalev winning twice as many rounds and knocking Ward down wasn't enough really makes me question if Tszyu has an agenda here. I'm also of the theory that many pro boxers bet on Ward to win, and made money, so they want to justify their pick and their profiting off the fight so they don't feel guilty about it by lying to themselves that at least the fight could have gone either way, when deep down they even they were a lot more surprised with the Ward scorecards than they would have been had Kovalev been announced the winner.

                    There have also been accusations that Kovalev is a racist, and if black OR white boxers believe that, most don't like racists. Kovalev's also been accused of not liking women boxing or whatever. A lot of men in the west don't like people who say stuff like that. So basically all these pundits in the west have multiple reasons why they might prefer Ward to Kovalev personally, which is the only reason I see even like 20% of them saying Ward won, when in my opinion it would be closer to 95% if they were neutral.

                    I keep hearing from Ward fans that they watched it with 10 other Ward fans and every single one admit Ward got a gift. But I haven't heard of any Kovalev fans that that thought Ward won, except for some youtube commenters who claim to be Kovalev fans but have Rick Ross avatars and other clues that they're actually Ward fans pretending to be Kovalev fans to try to trick fan perception of this fight. Like that's how desperate some of these specific Ward fan boys, not normal Ward fans but the fan boys, are to try to make it seem like Ward won, because they know so few agree, that they are creating youtube comments to pretend to be Kovalev fans just to comment "Kovalev is actually my favorite fighter, but I scored this one 114-113 to Ward. Kovalev really gassed and Ward adjusted" even though Kovalev threw and landed more.

                    I think that weasel strategy just backfires though. I think it makes it more obvious to people who won, instead of trying to make it seem closer like they want to do. But yeah man Tszyu definitely seems to be biased against Kovalev, like a few others in the western boxing establishment I had it 8-4 Kovalev.
                    Lotta good points here. Yeah definitely Tszyu is off base and/or has an agenda. I laughed when he said Ward was loved by millions. Look at his performances locally and you'd see hundreds... and probably a third of those are free tix. LOL

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                      Not trying to get in on your argument but did you really compare Kovalev right now to Kostya at the end of his career in his very last fight? Morales and Pac are close to the same age too but they're a decade apart in ring age.
                      You act like Kostya had a ton of difficult fights and he also didn't have very many fights. Kostya misses: Delahoya,Mosley,Mayweather, and Cotto. Morales turned pro two years before Pacquiao,but he doesn't strike me as a guy that takes care of his body between fights.

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