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  • #11
    Sounds like Tszyu is jealous of the accolades Kovalev is getting as a Russian. Tszyu even brings up his career to try to say "I was able to work hard and come back after my loss, so unless Kovalev can come back from his 'loss' quote unquote quote, I'm better." Reminds me of Marquez constantly badmouthing Canelo, and when some fighters badmouthed Floyd for reasons that weren't as legit as others.

    Then he contradicts himself about how Ward is an American superstar and "idol of millions" (really? Then why don't they show up to his fights?) so Kovalev had to win 12-0 or whatever. That's an even worse argument than "you have to take it from the champ." The champ thing at least makes sense in terms of a tiebreaker. Like if a champ spends years collecting belts, and the deciding rounds are literally too close to call, then you either score the fight a draw so the champ keeps his belts, or give him the benefit of the doubt in a coin toss round. But you basically don't let the challenger take away someone's years of work just by fighting even with them, or being within 1 punch either way and it's hard to tell.

    So that at least makes sense. But saying Kovalev winning twice as many rounds and knocking Ward down wasn't enough really makes me question if Tszyu has an agenda here. I'm also of the theory that many pro boxers bet on Ward to win, and made money, so they want to justify their pick and their profiting off the fight so they don't feel guilty about it by lying to themselves that at least the fight could have gone either way, when deep down they even they were a lot more surprised with the Ward scorecards than they would have been had Kovalev been announced the winner.

    There have also been accusations that Kovalev is a racist, and if black OR white boxers believe that, most don't like racists. Kovalev's also been accused of not liking women boxing or whatever. A lot of men in the west don't like people who say stuff like that. So basically all these pundits in the west have multiple reasons why they might prefer Ward to Kovalev personally, which is the only reason I see even like 20% of them saying Ward won, when in my opinion it would be closer to 95% if they were neutral.

    I keep hearing from Ward fans that they watched it with 10 other Ward fans and every single one admit Ward got a gift. But I haven't heard of any Kovalev fans that that thought Ward won, except for some youtube commenters who claim to be Kovalev fans but have Rick Ross avatars and other clues that they're actually Ward fans pretending to be Kovalev fans to try to trick fan perception of this fight. Like that's how desperate some of these specific Ward fan boys, not normal Ward fans but the fan boys, are to try to make it seem like Ward won, because they know so few agree, that they are creating youtube comments to pretend to be Kovalev fans just to comment "Kovalev is actually my favorite fighter, but I scored this one 114-113 to Ward. Kovalev really gassed and Ward adjusted" even though Kovalev threw and landed more.

    I think that weasel strategy just backfires though. I think it makes it more obvious to people who won, instead of trying to make it seem closer like they want to do. But yeah man Tszyu definitely seems to be biased against Kovalev, like a few others in the western boxing establishment I had it 8-4 Kovalev.

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    • #12
      I like kostya but don't agree here. Kovalevs only mistake was to come to America and fight ward when he is the champ. It should have been at home in Russia or neutral territory. Kovalev did more than enough to win the fight. He won 7 rounds and scored a knock down.

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      • #13
        At least Kovalev held his own against his wrestler, Hatton gave Tszyu that work.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
          Sounds like Tszyu is jealous of the accolades Kovalev is getting as a Russian. Tszyu even brings up his career to try to say "I was able to work hard and come back after my loss, so unless Kovalev can come back from his 'loss' quote unquote quote, I'm better." Reminds me of Marquez constantly badmouthing Canelo, and when some fighters badmouthed Floyd for reasons that weren't as legit as others.

          Then he contradicts himself about how Ward is an American superstar and "idol of millions" (really? Then why don't they show up to his fights?) so Kovalev had to win 12-0 or whatever. That's an even worse argument than "you have to take it from the champ." The champ thing at least makes sense in terms of a tiebreaker. Like if a champ spends years collecting belts, and the deciding rounds are literally too close to call, then you either score the fight a draw so the champ keeps his belts, or give him the benefit of the doubt in a coin toss round. But you basically don't let the challenger take away someone's years of work just by fighting even with them, or being within 1 punch either way and it's hard to tell.

          So that at least makes sense. But saying Kovalev winning twice as many rounds and knocking Ward down wasn't enough really makes me question if Tszyu has an agenda here. I'm also of the theory that many pro boxers bet on Ward to win, and made money, so they want to justify their pick and their profiting off the fight so they don't feel guilty about it by lying to themselves that at least the fight could have gone either way, when deep down they even they were a lot more surprised with the Ward scorecards than they would have been had Kovalev been announced the winner.

          There have also been accusations that Kovalev is a racist, and if black OR white boxers believe that, most don't like racists. Kovalev's also been accused of not liking women boxing or whatever. A lot of men in the west don't like people who say stuff like that. So basically all these pundits in the west have multiple reasons why they might prefer Ward to Kovalev personally, which is the only reason I see even like 20% of them saying Ward won, when in my opinion it would be closer to 95% if they were neutral.

          I keep hearing from Ward fans that they watched it with 10 other Ward fans and every single one admit Ward got a gift. But I haven't heard of any Kovalev fans that that thought Ward won, except for some youtube commenters who claim to be Kovalev fans but have Rick Ross avatars and other clues that they're actually Ward fans pretending to be Kovalev fans to try to trick fan perception of this fight. Like that's how desperate some of these specific Ward fan boys, not normal Ward fans but the fan boys, are to try to make it seem like Ward won, because they know so few agree, that they are creating youtube comments to pretend to be Kovalev fans just to comment "Kovalev is actually my favorite fighter, but I scored this one 114-113 to Ward. Kovalev really gassed and Ward adjusted" even though Kovalev threw and landed more.

          I think that weasel strategy just backfires though. I think it makes it more obvious to people who won, instead of trying to make it seem closer like they want to do. But yeah man Tszyu definitely seems to be biased against Kovalev, like a few others in the western boxing establishment I had it 8-4 Kovalev.

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          • #15
            Go **** yourself Lou Cipher

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            • #16
              Originally posted by NYC8224 View Post
              Go **** yourself Lou Cipher
              lol, someone explain to me the random posts toward Lou over the past two days. I'm seeing him in naughty girl poses, random posts swearing at him. Is this a unified assault I'm unaware of?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                Sounds like Tszyu is jealous of the accolades Kovalev is getting as a Russian. Tszyu even brings up his career to try to say "I was able to work hard and come back after my loss, so unless Kovalev can come back from his 'loss' quote unquote quote, I'm better." Reminds me of Marquez constantly badmouthing Canelo, and when some fighters badmouthed Floyd for reasons that weren't as legit as others.

                Then he contradicts himself about how Ward is an American superstar and "idol of millions" (really? Then why don't they show up to his fights?) so Kovalev had to win 12-0 or whatever. That's an even worse argument than "you have to take it from the champ." The champ thing at least makes sense in terms of a tiebreaker. Like if a champ spends years collecting belts, and the deciding rounds are literally too close to call, then you either score the fight a draw so the champ keeps his belts, or give him the benefit of the doubt in a coin toss round. But you basically don't let the challenger take away someone's years of work just by fighting even with them, or being within 1 punch either way and it's hard to tell.

                So that at least makes sense. But saying Kovalev winning twice as many rounds and knocking Ward down wasn't enough really makes me question if Tszyu has an agenda here. I'm also of the theory that many pro boxers bet on Ward to win, and made money, so they want to justify their pick and their profiting off the fight so they don't feel guilty about it by lying to themselves that at least the fight could have gone either way, when deep down they even they were a lot more surprised with the Ward scorecards than they would have been had Kovalev been announced the winner.

                There have also been accusations that Kovalev is a racist, and if black OR white boxers believe that, most don't like racists. Kovalev's also been accused of not liking women boxing or whatever. A lot of men in the west don't like people who say stuff like that. So basically all these pundits in the west have multiple reasons why they might prefer Ward to Kovalev personally, which is the only reason I see even like 20% of them saying Ward won, when in my opinion it would be closer to 95% if they were neutral.

                I keep hearing from Ward fans that they watched it with 10 other Ward fans and every single one admit Ward got a gift. But I haven't heard of any Kovalev fans that that thought Ward won, except for some youtube commenters who claim to be Kovalev fans but have Rick Ross avatars and other clues that they're actually Ward fans pretending to be Kovalev fans to try to trick fan perception of this fight. Like that's how desperate some of these specific Ward fan boys, not normal Ward fans but the fan boys, are to try to make it seem like Ward won, because they know so few agree, that they are creating youtube comments to pretend to be Kovalev fans just to comment "Kovalev is actually my favorite fighter, but I scored this one 114-113 to Ward. Kovalev really gassed and Ward adjusted" even though Kovalev threw and landed more.

                I think that weasel strategy just backfires though. I think it makes it more obvious to people who won, instead of trying to make it seem closer like they want to do. But yeah man Tszyu definitely seems to be biased against Kovalev, like a few others in the western boxing establishment I had it 8-4 Kovalev.

                ahahah i knew some asshat would write a novel

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                    lol, someone explain to me the random posts toward Lou over the past two days. I'm seeing him in naughty girl poses, random posts swearing at him. Is this a unified assault I'm unaware of?

                    nah, everyone just came to the conclusion that he is a worthless cretin at the same time

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      ahahah i knew some asshat would write a novel
                      IKR, I read "Tszyu is jealous" and saved myself 6 paragraphs of punishment by stopping there.

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