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  • aboutfkntime
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    #41
    Originally posted by taes
    He's bound to genuinely think that and based on the fact that probably 3 out of every 4 people would agree I can't knock him for it - he must be absolutely gutted.

    he is well-aware that Ward won more than 3 rounds


    Originally posted by churchmouse
    I could see a draw AT BEST for Ward, but a win? That is not indicated by unbiased judging.

    Jackson just said that he gave Ward 3-4 rounds, at best

    was that unbiased judging ?


    Originally posted by Deevel916
    I gave Ward 5. 6 if you want to be generous. Even if you give him 6 its still a loss for Ward given the 2nd round.

    so, you think Jackson is wrong as well ?

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    • LoadedWraps
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      #42
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      Veteran trainer John David Jackson is completely speechless at how his fighter, Sergey Kovalev (30-1-1, 26KOs), was the loser in last Saturday's fight with Andre Ward (31-0, 15KOs).
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      Nothing but the truth being spoken here.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mike Haynes
        Ward literally WRESTLED the belts away from Kov. I can't watch another Ward fight if this is how he does it. He literally picked Kov up almost completely off the floor. No foul called. I was so looking forward to this fight and that decision ruined it. I hope he retires.
        Yup, he pulled Kovalevs leg up off the mat. And the ref did nothing. Again. Over and over. "But Kovalev was using head locks".

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        • veter
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          #44
          one of the best robberies and sog floyding after.
          he clearly lost to a active champ. 3 at best (2 d) - ud kovalev bitces

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          • petegrif
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            #45
            Here's the argument that should end all discussion about how it was a really tight fight that could have gone either way.

            IF it was such a tight fight (which imho it wasn't, K won it) then there is absolutely no chance that all three judges would agree on their scoring like that. Just no way. Whenever you have a genuinely close fight there is always some disagreement between the judges but here - it was almost like they were a programmed team.

            And that means that either
            a) it wasn't actually a close fight, it was pretty clear and Ward clearly won it. And i find this possibility to be vanishingly unlikely. Even people who think Ward won (apart from the odd nutcase) don't think he clearly won it. The best argument they come up with is it was tight. But as the judging makes clear that can't be the truth.
            b) something very very bad happened.
            Last edited by petegrif; 11-21-2016, 09:23 PM.

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              #46
              Boxing is losing audience constantly.

              Big fights aren't being made with any regularity.

              And on the rate occasion that the kind of big matchup is made that could attract people to the sport you either have a terrible fight (MW Pac) or you have bull**** scoring (Pac Brad...and now this one.

              When you have a huge matchup like this and it ends with the crowd booing the sport is in terrible trouble.

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                #47
                This here is a case that mirrors PAC Bradley 1

                There have been horrible Robberys in the past but this one is so uncalled for!!

                This hurts boxing and makes one not want to pay anymore for Shlt like this!

                Some idiots don't care and are happy!

                The judges ought to jailed and looked into !

                If there was a payoff then 10 years on bread and water might be too good for them.

                Kovalev will NO Doubt have to KO Andre to keep
                From being robbed again!! This must be pounded into his mind NOW but I think he knows it

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by petegrif
                  Here's the argument that should end all discussion about how it was a really tight fight that could have gone either way.

                  IF it was such a tight fight (which imho it wasn't, K won it) then there is absolutely no chance that all three judges would agree on their scoring like that. Just no way. Whenever you have a genuinely close fight there is always some disagreement between the judges but here - it was almost like they were a programmed team.

                  And that means that either
                  a) it wasn't actually a close fight, it was pretty clear and Ward clearly won it. And i find this possibility to be vanishingly unlikely. Even people who think Ward won (apart from the odd nutcase) don't think he clearly won it. The best argument they come up with is it was tight. But as the judging makes clear that can't be the truth.
                  b) something very very bad happened.
                  Rounds 3,5,6,12 they didn't agree on. So much for your theory.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by twosweethooks
                    This here is a case that mirrors PAC Bradley 1

                    There have been horrible Robberys in the past but this one is so uncalled for!!

                    This hurts boxing and makes one not want to pay anymore for Shlt like this!

                    Some idiots don't care and are happy!

                    The judges ought to jailed and looked into !

                    If there was a payoff then 10 years on bread and water might be too good for them.

                    Kovalev will NO Doubt have to KO Andre to keep
                    From being robbed again!! This must be pounded into his mind NOW but I think he knows it
                    Nothing like Bradley-Pacquiao. What about Pacquiao-Marquez 3 where only 12% of media scorecards had Pacquiao winning did that damage the sport?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by petegrif
                      Here's the argument that should end all discussion about how it was a really tight fight that could have gone either way.

                      IF it was such a tight fight (which imho it wasn't, K won it) then there is absolutely no chance that all three judges would agree on their scoring like that. Just no way. Whenever you have a genuinely close fight there is always some disagreement between the judges but here - it was almost like they were a programmed team.

                      And that means that either
                      a) it wasn't actually a close fight, it was pretty clear and Ward clearly won it. And i find this possibility to be vanishingly unlikely. Even people who think Ward won (apart from the odd nutcase) don't think he clearly won it. The best argument they come up with is it was tight. But as the judging makes clear that can't be the truth.
                      b) something very very bad happened.
                      I think I missed the logic here. So because the judges scored it the same cumulative score, then it wasn't close? They didn't score the rounds the same way. They all scored it 7 rounds Ward - 5 rounds Kov with variations in what those rounds were. I do think Ward won (I scored in 7-5), but I wouldn't be crying either way. Most of the rounds were close, so seeing a close scoring doesn't mean there is some grand conspiracy...There's a rematch where both fighters have an opportunity to prove or disprove the result. Hopefully, it happens.

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