Expected Ward to win. He definently..

[Ray*]

I thought Ward would win, its not a robbery but Kovalev clearly won by 1, 2 points or rds

Both fighters rose to the occasion n the rematch is another toss up 50/50 fight

Firstly i picked Kov to win, secondly i dont think it was a robbery, i just dont think ward deserve to have his hands raise.

[IronDanHamza]

It seems you believe its real, because that would make sense with your hold on that quote. Again you come up with "Get more point"... again am tell you "I dont think Ward won" the fight period. He got the judges point and got his "W".. But i dont think he did enough.

It's not real. It is not a real thing. It is not a rule it is not a criteria.

It is something someone made up out of thin air probably a long long time ago that means literally nothing.

[deathofaclown]

It could have went either way but I don't think Ward done enough to dethrone Kovalev. You shouldn't be taking a champions belts after fighting like that.

I never really agreed with the whole thing about you have to rip the belt from the champion. If you win the fight, then you win. I actually thought Kovalev won anyway but still.

Anyway, if we are going by notion you have to rip the belts from the champ, then Ward definitely 100% didn't do that.

[Ray*]

How do you agree with it? You're saying the opposite.

You're saying "that's how a fight should be scored" (on a round by round basis) then on the same page of the thread saying "the challenger has to take the belt from the champion" whatever the **** that even actually means.

A challenger has to go take the belt correct... fight for his life and leave no doubt, this fight left a doubt. Not the "Score one more point" message you are trying to put across to me, go and get that belt and leave no doubt....Got it?

[Ray*]

It's not real. It is not a real thing. It is not a rule it is not a criteria.

It is something someone made up out of thin air probably a long long time ago that means literally nothing.

So why are you holding on to it if it isnt real?

[SeekDaGreat]

Because evidently you can score.

This fight had way too many close rounds to be a robbery. It's really that simple.

This happens all the time, everytime a fight has lots of close rounds it's called a robbery.

This is because for example someone may have it scored 8-4 Kovalec with a KD, and have a wide score for Kovalev and this isn't necessarily wrong but most of the close rounds have been given to Kovalev, that's fine. But the rounds are close and could be scored the other way and that's how Ward could have and did get the victory.

Kovalev didn't dominate or clearly win enough rounds for it to a robbery.

I agree. I thought it should have been a draw at best for Ward, especially with the KD. And I was rooting for Ward.

[Ta Khent]

There's nothing in the official rules of boxing that says a champion is given special privileges over a challenger simply because he's the champ. You can't make up your own rules.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Lost.

Sorry, Kovalev won. Surprized you all are kidding yourselves. You can't even call it a close fight. Ward didn't get dominated but it's pretty easy to see he lost this fight. Commentating was pretty bad on Jones part
And even outside of effective punching ( which kovalev win) he also pressed the action while Ward ran and held. Robbery in my book.

For the record though, I thought ward would win.

Ward got his ass kicked last night

His great adjustment was going to the clinch and getting his ass kicked on the inside

[-PBP-]

It's not real. It is not a real thing. It is not a rule it is not a criteria.

It is something someone made up out of thin air probably a long long time ago that means literally nothing.

I think it makes sense, it's just misunderstood. To me, The quote refers to the mentality that you have to have going into the fight as a challenger and it's more motivational. But people twist it to make believe that a judge should gift every close round to the champion.

Perfect example, Erislandy Lara felt he could dance his way to victory over Canelo. He had the wrong mentality that fight and it cost him.

[IronDanHamza]

A challenger has to go take the belt correct... fight for his life and leave no doubt, this fight left a doubt. Not the "Score one more point" message you are trying to put across to me, go and get that belt and leave no doubt....Got it?

What does "take the belt" mean?

The challenger has to win the fight. No more, no less. The challenger doesn't have to "leave any doubt" no.

If the challenger wins the fight by 1 point then he's taken the belts because he's beaten the champion.