Floyd Mayweather was exposed against Manny Pacquiao

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #31
    Originally posted by daggum
    yeah its a fact floyd won and its a fact manny landed more punches. those things usually dont go together in a boxing match. you think the guy who landed more should lose oh yeah and his punches were much harder and cleaner. just admit it you are a floyd fan and are glad he won. there's no shame in that. just dont pretend you are some respectable impartial boxing fan.
    You shouldn't pretend either.

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    • hugh grant
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      #32
      Originally posted by BoxingFan85
      Are we still debating the result? Floyd won Manny lost.. Move on...
      PAC beat jmm 3 times and people couldn't move on.

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        #33
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        PAC beat jmm 3 times and people couldn't move on.
        FAIL.

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        • daggum
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          #34
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          You shouldn't pretend either.
          how to score boxing:

          clean punches-manny, landed more and his punches were more flush
          defense-manny, got hit less and when he got hit not as flush
          ring generalship, subjective category but imo the general is someone who is in control and manny was forcign floyd to hold and bend over just to keep up. those things are illegal and floyd would not have done them unless forced to hence manny wins this category.
          effective aggression-another subjective category but i would say manny won this as well

          ok so the 2 somewhat subjective categories i thought manny won but even if you gave them to floyd thats a 2-2 tie with the manny winning the most important category. why would floyd deserve to win? i can't see a rational way of giving the fight to the guy who landed less and was cheating at a good pace.

          how am i being biased by thinking the guy who landed better punches deserves to win a boxing match? that makes no sense and also you and many other floyd fans said over and over marquez was robbed against manny. and why was he robbed? he landed better punches was your answer. did he land more punches? no but he did land better punches. in the floyd fight lets just pretend that floyd did land more(he didnt) but who landed better punches? pac. therefore according to your marquez-pac way of scoring pac wins. oh wait now you are changing how you are scoring! shocker!

          thats why you are not impartial and have no credibility. you have been caught in a contradiction. i have not. i always said the marquez-pac third fight could have gone either way. it could have gone either way because although marquez did land the better punches on average pac landed more which made it super close. unfortunately for floyd he didn't land more or anywhere close to the quality of shots that pac was landing therefore he didn't deserve to win. marquez has a case he won and you can't dispute that. floyd really has no case when you look at the rules of boxing. yes you can pretend he landed more or had better defense or that sticking your arm out and pushing your opponents face counts as a clean punch but thats getting ridiculous dont you think?
          Last edited by daggum; 11-03-2016, 02:38 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by daggum
            how can you watch the video and think floyd won? ignoring who is landing the cleaner punches is rational and impartial? how??? i can understand getting it wrong on the night of the fight watching it live like many did but you can't pretend to be impartial and rational now when you have the facts and choose to ignore them.
            please dude stop with the BS videos made by other disgruntled pac fans. Grow up and be a man.

            You backed Manny to beat Floyd and he didn't. Not only did Manny lose, he lost so clearly that no one on his team even suggested he won after the fight and his own network made it clear to him he didn't win.

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              #36
              Originally posted by daggum
              how can you be a stylistic nightmare if your opponent outlands you and lands better punches than you? i really don't understand that and no one has ever had an answer for that. they just say but floyd won. yes i know he won but why did he win? how?
              Floyd actually threw more punches and landed at a much higher percentage. He controlled the distance, dictated the pace of the fight and basically cut Manny's work rate in half too.

              He easily won the fight, 9 rounds to 3. Manny had a few good moments here and there but he was fighting Floyd's fight almost all night.

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                #37
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Are you sure you thought Floyd won? So why are you so defensive?
                Are you impartial? Are you sure PAC was at his best?
                You have no credibility.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  how to score boxing:

                  clean punches-manny, landed more and his punches were more flush
                  defense-manny, got hit less and when he got hit not as flush
                  ring generalship, subjective category but imo the general is someone who is in control and manny was forcign floyd to hold and bend over just to keep up. those things are illegal and floyd would not have done them unless forced to hence manny wins this category.
                  effective aggression-another subjective category but i would say manny won this as well

                  ok so the 2 somewhat subjective categories i thought manny won but even if you gave them to floyd thats a 2-2 tie with the manny winning the most important category. why would floyd deserve to win? i can't see a rational way of giving the fight to the guy who landed less and was cheating at a good pace.

                  how am i being unbiased by thinking the guy who landed better punches deserves to win a boxing match? that makes no sense and also you and many other floyd fans said over and over marquez was robbed against manny. and why was he robbed? he landed better punches was your answer. did he land more punches? no but he did land better punches. in the floyd fight lets just pretend that floyd did land more(he didnt) but who landed better punches? pac. therefore according to your marquez-pac way of scoring pac wins. oh wait now you are changing how you are scoring! shocker!

                  thats why you are not impartial and have no credibility. you have been caught in a contradiction. i have not. i always said the marquez-pac third fight could have gone either way. it could have gone either way because although marquez did land the better punches on average pac landed more which made it super close. unfortunately for floyd he didn't land more or anywhere close to the quality of shots that pac was landing therefore he didn't deserve to win. marquez has a case he won and you can't dispute that. floyd really has no case when you look at the rules of boxing. yes you can pretend he landed more or had better defense or that sticking your arm out and pushing your opponents face counts as a clean punch but thats getting ridiculous dont you think?
                  I didn't see Pacquiao land more. I've seen the videos Pacquiao fans keep posting and all of them count punches that are blocked or you can't see land. Landing the cleaner punches in a few rounds doesn't score you 12 rounds, it scores you the round you landed them in. Mayweather controlled the fight and out-boxed Pacquiao that's the fight i saw and that's the fight most real boxing fans and people involved in the sport saw.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by FrankieClutch
                    Neither were at their best because they nullified each other in so many ways. Great tactical fight. Both landed the least amount of punches in their careers against each other.
                    True. But one guy still won clearly to every rational, impartial person watching the fight, regardless of who they backed going in.

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                    • daggum
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                      I didn't see Pacquiao land more. I've seen the videos Pacquiao fans keep posting and all of them count punches that are blocked or you can't see land. Landing the cleaner punches in a few rounds doesn't score you 12 rounds, it scores you the round you landed them in. Mayweather controlled the fight and out-boxed Pacquiao that's the fight i saw and that's the fight most real boxing fans and people involved in the sport saw.
                      so you are saying compubox made the pac videos?

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