What happened to that really elegant, fluid outboxer style?

[Canelo and GGG]

I dont think it necessarily has to be that hard on your stamina if you are smooth and use effective movement. David Haye's nervous twitching and bouncing is probably harder on his engine than these types...

(SRR)

(Johnson)

Maybe i shouldnt have said dancing because that instantly brings to mind the amount of movement that Ali or Pep used. It doesnt need to be that pronounced.

Yea but to survive fight like Duran Srl or Ali Frazier 1 or 3 you need to have crazy stamina,but Jab and distance is main problem ,thats why guys just swing and clinch missing almost every Time lol.

[Tom Cruise]

Yea but to survive fight like Duran Srl or Ali Frazier 1 or 3 you need to have crazy stamina,but Jab and distance is main problem ,thats why guys just swing and clinch missing almost every Time lol.

Yeah thats true actually vs the Fraziers of the world it really puts stamina to the test

[SplitSecond]

Garcia is more static than what im talking about. He doesnt really move around his opponent pumping the jab. He's more about a solid base with well timed counters and hard jabs. love me some Mikey though.

Salido??

Definitely not

I mean the style mikey uses in that fight. Here: http://********/vj6N1DPOyE0

[dan_cov]

Probably get grilled for saying this but Kell Brook?

[IronDanHamza]

You put me on to him in the history section if you remember, Dan

Beautiful boxer

I don't remember that mate but glad I did.

My favourite.

[Tom Cruise]

Probably get grilled for saying this but Kell Brook?

Good shout actually. Really liked what he tried to do vs Golovkin.

Unfortunately retreats back in straight lines sometimes and refuses to tuck his chin or use head movement. But defo flashes of the style im talking about. Great jab on the guy

[IronDanHamza]

I blame Roy Jones a little bit for the abandoning of a consistent jab from outboxers. He had the ability stay well out of range using more feints and pawing and didnt really need to pump the jab, but his great athleticism allowed him to close the gap with straight rights or lead left hooks without his opponents countering.

Now you see fighters like Thurman or Haye who are great athletes but seem content to use jerky feints rather than a really nice smooth jab and footwork and both are lacking imo because of it. Not that they arent good fighters. But they could be better

Definitely.

Roy inspired a generation just like Ali did before him and Floyd does now.

[Tom Cruise]

I mean the style mikey uses in that fight. Here: http://********/vj6N1DPOyE0

Ah completely mis read your post mate. Was wondering how you came up with Salido

Yeah Mikey looked pretty good there.

[Tom Cruise]

One guy who does do a bit of the old jab and move is Amir Khan. Early on vs Canelo especially he looked pretty good.

Just never gonna have the consistency, variety chin or ring IQ to keep it up without getting chinned

[PK3434]

Some very good replies in this thread.

I'd like to add that there are simply less boxers now (especially in the United States) than there were many years ago. Less gyms, less trainers, and many of the kids who do fight, start at an older age than before. It is very difficult to become a great boxer if you don't start until you are a teenager.