What happened to that really elegant, fluid outboxer style?

[soul_survivor]

People have no stamina to fight like Ali or SRL,i Also noticed that Jab is forgotten weapon thoes days, i rearly see good Sharp Jab like Ali or Holmes had.

Exactly.

Apart from Pacquiao and a prime Morales, I can't think of too many guys post 2000 who have the type of stamina you see in the guys of old and a lot of them used to go 15 damn rounds.

In fact, the further we progress in this century, the worse the stamina becomes, with guys like DeGale, Groves, Jack, Canelo (Seriously improved but still), BJS and so on having some of the worst stamina I have seen in world level fighters.

[IronDanHamza]

Plenty of these guys clinched. The post prime version of Robinson that we see on tape loved a clinch. Inbetween the clinches they were a lot more active and mobile though

Clinching was always a part of boxing.

Even more so back then.

[incredible_22]

I agree with everyone on here and it made me realize another possible point....fighters aren't trained in that style anymore. To link back to what's being said, trainers look at the top dogs in the sport (past & present) and try to teach their fighters that style. Reminds me of when Berto all of a sudden thought he was Floyd with the Philly shell in his first fight with Hunter. A reverse of that to someone else's point is Amir Khan. Under Roach he tried to emulate Manny and now with Hunter you see this fluid style a little.

[sicko]

They're all in Cuba and not allowed to go Pro right now, hopefully that changes soon!

But yeah Robeisy Ramirez, Erislandy Savon are a couple of fighters who comes to mind with that type of style!

[Doctor_Tenma]

Damn, great question man. Thurman has the movement you speak of but not the offense to go with it, it's more waiting for counter punching opportunities or finding a favorable angle to lead from.

The style seems dead

[Madison Boxing]

too risky. its easier to just clinch and prevent your opponent from punching. why take a chance? fighters have to worry about their health

pretty much this. theres no need to dodge punches as such when you are allowed to duck down at the waist and grab hold of an opponent. dodging and countering is old fashioned now

[Doctor_Tenma]

Cotto can turn into that guy but it doesn't last long enough and he doesn't have much of a right hand. Had he thrown a couple of good lowblows against Margarito he would have performed decently well with it in route to a decision.

[therealpugilist]

Clinching was always a part of boxing.

Even more so back then.

you can tell the newbies didn't watch boxing pre-1970s or see any of the fights


The "golden era" from 1920s-1970s had a lot of clinching and many had wrestling backgrounds


fans today whine about any and everything...he clinching doe...he running doe....

[Tom Cruise]

[Canelo and GGG]

Cotto can turn into that guy but it doesn't last long enough and he doesn't have much of a right hand. Had he thrown a couple of good lowblows against Margarito he would have performed decently well with it in route to a decision.

Great example Cotto can box like that for some part of a fight ,but his size and reach make it hard for him.