Comments Thread For: Schaefer To Canelo's Critics: Golovkin is no Superman!

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  • jonnyc420
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    #41
    Originally posted by Shadoww702
    My bad!! I'm just used to the usual GGG nutjobs like HeroBendsOver for GGGood C ock
    It's all good man, I'm just a straight up boxing fan. I have fighters who I enjoy watching more than others but I'm no cheerleader like some of these other dudes that post nonsense. You seen 'em lol

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    • Killabntx
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      #42
      Lol is there a admission of avoiding matches ? Maybe I read that wrong - here's a novel idea - make the matches instead of what ifs and speculation I like both fighters a lot and have watched both from early on in their respective careers. - Kell Brooks /GGG fight showed that GGG can be hit by a boxer that has good lateral movement , foot work, defense and ring generalship. Ummm GGG also won by TKO , 5th round, breaking Brooks eye socket in the process - not sure how that makes GGG exposed. GGG has a decent chin - he's let up a bit defensively to create a better show ( not sure why Abel Sanchez doesn't shut that down) but he hasn't been hurt. Canelo from the beginning has been a boxer puncher with not much defense he started to improve his defense right around around the Shane Mosely fight continued to improve defensively through , trout, cotto( aged overblown welterweight not a true Jr middle or middleweight fighter not much lateral movement either) of course overmatched style and speed wise against Mayweather (also not a true Jr middleweight) Caneli never has had great defensive skills or true lateral movement because he hasn't needed it - angulllo and Kirkland were fairly worn out through their own wars - Kirkland is a head case that wasn't prepared and got destroyed - this last fight Liam - Liam was landing at a high percentage the issue is that Liam has ZERO power. Both fighters need improved defense despite their respective power. Skill movement, ring generalship and defense against body work will determine the winner. both have power who ever is able to use it effectively should determine the winner. Make the fight happen end the speculation

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      • R_Walken
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        #43
        Shaeffer is only saying this because if they match Canelo in with Gennady and gets a career altering beating it essentially kills GB or at least on puts the company on life support and Shaeffer gets to laugh his a.ss off seeing GB become a non factor in boxing

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        • Squ□redCircle34
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          #44
          His kryptonite will be a fighter who is durable,has a chin, respectable power and who throws in high volume with an uptempo pace. Doesn't hurt if the guy can bring it and knows how to fight on the inside!

          Only guy I know of who fights like that around Golden Goose Gennady's weight was Canela in the Lara fight and Badou Jack!

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          • Canelo and GGG
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            #45
            Ofc he is not ,Canelo can beat him and imo he will,Canelo stamina is not so good (160 Canelo can have good stamina doe)GGG stamina is not something to brag about either ,his work rate isnt so high as ppl clame .What will happen is 2 very skilled fighters will meet in brutal classic on september 2017.

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            • Jsmooth9876
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mike D
              I'd be pulling for Gennady over Canelo if it ever materializes, but do y'all really think that Canelo is gonna get KO'd? I mean sure, we are talking about one of the most prolific knockout artists in the modern era, so it certainly wouldn't be a shock, but...Canelo is a f**king beast too, man. And when is the last time Canelo has even been legitimately hurt or staggered? Let alone knocked down or out?
              When has he ever fought anyone with the power of GGG?
              Fighting guys like Trout,Lara,Cotto,smith,Khan is nowhere close to power of GGG. I think he could be stopped. Wouldn't say definitely but m,ore than 50/50 chance.

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #47
                Originally posted by Killabntx
                Lol is there a admission of avoiding matches ? Maybe I read that wrong - here's a novel idea - make the matches instead of what ifs and speculation I like both fighters a lot and have watched both from early on in their respective careers. - Kell Brooks /GGG fight showed that GGG can be hit by a boxer that has good lateral movement , foot work, defense and ring generalship. Ummm GGG also won by TKO , 5th round, breaking Brooks eye socket in the process - not sure how that makes GGG exposed. GGG has a decent chin - he's let up a bit defensively to create a better show ( not sure why Abel Sanchez doesn't shut that down) but he hasn't been hurt. Canelo from the beginning has been a boxer puncher with not much defense he started to improve his defense right around around the Shane Mosely fight continued to improve defensively through , trout, cotto( aged overblown welterweight not a true Jr middle or middleweight fighter not much lateral movement either) of course overmatched style and speed wise against Mayweather (also not a true Jr middleweight) Caneli never has had great defensive skills or true lateral movement because he hasn't needed it - angulllo and Kirkland were fairly worn out through their own wars - Kirkland is a head case that wasn't prepared and got destroyed - this last fight Liam - Liam was landing at a high percentage the issue is that Liam has ZERO power. Both fighters need improved defense despite their respective power. Skill movement, ring generalship and defense against body work will determine the winner. both have power who ever is able to use it effectively should determine the winner. Make the fight happen end the speculation

                I don't agree with the bold

                Golovkin doesn't get hit intentionally, that is bunk

                " I couldn't really land any punches " ~ Liam Smith

                and power will not determine the Canelo/Golovkin winner

                the best fighter will win that fight

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #48
                  "When [Canelo] wanted to fight Mayweather or when he wanted to fight Austin Trout, I told him it was too early, you don't have to fight these kind of guys. But you know what, he was insisting [to fight them], he wanted it. "

                  And he's doing the exact opposite with Golovkin. He's making every excuse in the book to not make the fight and talking about "it's up to my promoter."

                  That's how we know the fear involved with Alvarez and Golden Boy. Both have shown that when Alvarez actually wants a fight, he gets it.

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                  • Shadoww702
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    "When [Canelo] wanted to fight Mayweather or when he wanted to fight Austin Trout, I told him it was too early, you don't have to fight these kind of guys. But you know what, he was insisting [to fight them], he wanted it. "

                    And he's doing the exact opposite with Golovkin. He's making every excuse in the book to not make the fight and talking about "it's up to my promoter."

                    That's how we know the fear involved with Alvarez and Golden Boy. Both have shown that when Alvarez actually wants a fight, he gets it.
                    IDK??? $10,000,000 would get 99% of the boxers to sign.

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                    • Shadoww702
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                      When has he ever fought anyone with the power of GGG?
                      Fighting guys like Trout,Lara,Cotto,smith,Khan is nowhere close to power of GGG. I think he could be stopped. Wouldn't say definitely but m,ore than 50/50 chance.
                      We can also say GGG has never fought anyone as good as Canelo also? Personally I think it's a 60/40 fight. With the 60 because GGG has only fought at MW. That will be Canelo's 4th weight class @160.

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