Comments Thread For: Arum Explains How Broner Killed Pacquiao Fight, Rules Him Out

[Larry the boss]

Do you know if Broner has spoken about this negotiation?

I would like to see what he said.

he just spouted out his usual bull**** with no substance..and i like the guy and support him..but he is lost right now

[pacmanis1]

Why is Broner a fool? Bob gave Rios $4 million to be a punching bag after losing to Alvarado, Broner probably can't beat PAC either, but he has a better following than Rios.

I was referring to the fact that Broner is just an overall fool, not for turning down the money. The guy had all the talent in the world and could be a PPV star right now but he just wasn't dedicated enough. On top of that with all he has going for him he keeps finding himself in trouble with the law. So yea all in all I'd say he's a bit of a fool.

[aboutfkntime]

Arum confirmed that haymon was down for the fight..

noted ^^

and when I have confirmation of that from anyone EXCEPT Bob Arum, I will believe it.....

..... not necessarily saying that is untrue, just that Arum said it..... so yea, who knows?

Broner would have got a split,, the 4 million was just his guarantee

it doesn't say anything like that in the article ?

[aboutfkntime]

If Broner had known that the fight wasn't going to happen for at least another year, and he had all that time to negotiate, and if he'd been holding world titles which he knew Manny was after, then turning down Arum's $4million ofer would probably have been the right decision.

fair call ^^

but that wasn't the case..... Broner argued that he was worth more than 4mil NOW, from an absolute superstar..... Golovkin is arguing that he is worth more than 10mil NOW, from a wannabe superstar

and I am arguing that the glaring difference between how YOU guys view those 2 examples seems to indicate a more-than-slight bias when it comes to the affairs of Golovkin

how can you call Broner dumb and yet call Golovkin smart ?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

noted ^^

and when I have confirmation of that from anyone EXCEPT Bob Arum, I will believe it.....

..... not necessarily saying that is untrue, just that Arum said it..... so yea, who knows?





it doesn't say anything like that in the article ?

It doesn't say its a flat fee either... And I don't see haymon (who is known for getting his fighters good terms in fights) would allow broner into a PPv fight with no PPv upside, especially since it is broner and with his personality can sell a fight acting as the villian...

[HAY-B]

[QUOTE=OctoberRed;17155993]Broner is a fool. Win over Pacquiao could have really catapulted him.[/QUOTE

No it wouldn't have, because there would have just been another excuse from the Pac camp and Pac fans as to why Pac lost. Then there would be a call for a rematch against a healthy or non-distracted Pac. And non-stop talk about how Broner couldn't beat a healthy or focused Pac. Broner would receive more hate for beating Pac than he would praise or respect.

[HAY-B]

So he wanted 6 million? if Broner wasn't wacked that's not too much too ask for.

I agree with you. I think this fight does big numbers just on Pac fans and all those that want to see Broner get is a55 kicked. Then add in the Broner fans and I think you might crack 1 million buys or come damn close to it.
If Broner wanted 6 million with no PPV upside, Bob should have jumped to make that fight. If Broner wanted 6 million plus PPV upside, depending on the percentage Broner was requesting, I could easily see Bob not wanting to make this fight because Bob must take home the biggest purse of the night.

[Mike D]

No it wouldn't have, because there would have just been another excuse from the Pac camp and Pac fans as to why Pac lost. Then there would be a call for a rematch against a healthy or non-distracted Pac. And non-stop talk about how Broner couldn't beat a healthy or focused Pac. Broner would receive more hate for beating Pac than he would praise or respect.

Moot point because Manny would've white washed AB anyway.

[PunchyPotorff]

What no one can explain is why Bonehead is even relevant now. There are many fighters with easily as much talent... who have yet to see a million $$ payday. The guy is a mental midget, with a far higher view of his worth than he needs to have.

[aboutfkntime]

It doesn't say its a flat fee either... And I don't see haymon (who is known for getting his fighters good terms in fights) would allow broner into a PPv fight with no PPv upside, especially since it is broner and with his personality can sell a fight acting as the villian...

yea, I kinda suspect that as well..... fair call ^^

it was most likely 4mil plus a percentage of the upside should PPV sales exceed a certain (most likely unattainable, knowing Arum) number

I actually agree with you on the flat-fee subject, you argued a good point yesterday..... and unlike kafkod, I will concede if I am wrong, or in this case not 100% correct..... although, the point I made yesterday that an unprecedented offer is not necessarily unfair just because it is unprecedented, is still valid

I admit, that a flat-fee for Canelo/GGG would be more fair

but NO WAY can 10mil be viewed as anything other than a good (not great) offer..... that could have been accepted

much more deserving fighters have accepted much less