Comments Thread For: Roy Jones: If No Canelo, Golovkin Must Take a Risk and Move Up!

[Squ□redCircle34]

This is sad, Team 154-168 will be waiting for Canela for awhile, skipped the Ward fight, continues facing obsolete opposition, talks big dog like they are superstar, very questionable legacy, brags about dropping bigger fighters in sparring but refuse to move up even 1 division and KO' s cans and gets put on the p4p list?!

Smfh, I think I'll leave my things here!

[goldenbear]

GGG in catch 22 Now

GGG hasn't fought anyone and Brooke doesn't count. So now if he takes a risk and loses then he'll be seen as hype job and his pay and status will go rock bottom. This is why Jacob fight won't happen. The pay is bad business for Jacob and too much risk for GGG. GGG can fight Saunders, canelo or degeale for big paydays that's it. Unless move up two weight classes fight Adonis or winner of Kovalev vs ward. That's all his nice paydays in a nutshell. GGG smart staying at mw when u look at it from that perspective...

[Junbengreat]

Doesn't change anything I said. I would have argued Canelo should have gotten more (and I think he did via PPV upside but not 100% sure).

Just because someone makes a bad business decision doesn't mean everyone else should. Would you jump off a bridge just because your friend did it?

For all the ggg fans
Let's do Simple Math. Ggg will Stand to make $15-20 million after its all said and done. I'll make it easier for you. Against mayweather, Canelo made $5 million vs mayweathers $40 million. That means they made a combined $45 million which came out to Canelo 11% and mayweather 89% with Canelo bringing 2 JMW belts to the table. This fight also sold 2.1 million ppv's which was the highest sold ppv at the time. Next example: Canelo vs cotto- Canelo made $5 million vs cottos $15 million for a combined $20 million. Do the math. Canelo made 25% and cotto 75%. Are you still with me? Present day Canelo vs ggg. Ggg will make $15-$20 million vs Canelos $30-$40 million. This is all depends on how good the ppv sells. Let's do the math. Let's go low end (ggg) vs high end (canelo). If Canelo makes $40 million and ggg makes $15 million that's a combined total of $55 million. Ggg makes 27% and Canelo makes 73 %. Now let's look at GGG's high end vs Canelos low end. If ggg makes $20 million and Canelo makes $30 million that's a combined $50 million. Ggg gets 40% and Canelo gets 60%. Still following?! Now let's look at both fighters high end. If ggg gets $20 million and Canelo gets $40 million that's $60 million. Ggg gets 33% and Canelo gets 67%. This is as simple as I can explain it so you and every ggg fan can understand. 8 figures does not mean 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,or 9 million. It means a guaranteed at least $10 million right of the back plus a ppv percentage. Canelo took a guaranteed $5 million for cotto and mayweather. He's offering ggg at least double that for a fight that's not guaranteed to sell 2 million ppv's

[Lester Tutor]

Ahhh the typcial ggg detractor. When it's ggg trying to make fights it's always his fault if the fight falls through. Frotch ggg would of have been a massive fight. Has nothing to do with K2. It would be of been ON sky ppv so the money would have been there. Just like the brooke fight. Don't act dumb. And chanvez jr turrned down 12 million dollar massive payday. Both chose not to take the fight. FACTS

Seeing how you just pop out of nowhere, most likely an industry troll, or worse, a consistent alt (most likely an industry troll, you don't provide clear facts that Arum wanted Chavez Jr. to extens his contract for such a bout...

Froch and Mayweather, what they have in common, like industry trolls write to lure in what they are afraid of, that is, passing a small torch and milk publicity, but Abel and Loeffler desperate to cash out on guys before retirement. Funny huh. One guy coming from Super Featherweight, the other already at 168...

History cant write that Chavez Jr. ir Froch ducked Golovkin because those fighters would attack the writers. Instead, we get theories from forum trollers pushing an agenda to make K2 look the good guy.

As I always say here, karma supersedes all. The bad energy is only going to drain Golovkinism downwards and it was the fans to blame and those protecting this image that Gennady has no control over and being taken advantage of. So be it. Times is on his side. He'll regret his mgmt in the future when future writers will recount the details, and by that time it will all be too late, regardless if Gennady can make sense of points by that time..

[Raonic]

if that bridge was low, and there was a significant upside..... then of course I fkn would, and so would anyone else.

is Golovkin a fighter or not ?

FACT: Golovkin COULD have taken those fights, but he CHOSE not to

he is 100% responsible/accountable for his underwhelming resume'

Lol at the upside to jumping off a bridge.

[TexasCowBoy]

As long as GGG can make weight at middleweight he should stay there and be the undisputed MiddleWeight Champion of the World....Look at Marvelous Marvin Hagler...one of the best if not the best MiddleWeight Champions of all time....that was rjjr downfall jumping weight classes

[ironlungs]

Why is Roy Jones calling out GGG when Canelo is ducking him?

Yes canelo is ducking him but canelo has a better resume than ggg. Ggg hasnt fought anyone.

[Canelo and GGG]

Wow i think many ppl here miss understood RJJ here LMAO,good thread to eat some popcorn doe.

[TexasCowBoy]

The Haymonites need to pressure jacobs to close the deal and fight GGG with the same fervor that they want GGG to not stay at middleweight...I wonder why the Haymonites and ****** Clowns dont want GGG at middleweight????I also remember when the ****** clowns didn't want ward to fight Kovalev first..they wanted little knee to fight GGG first and then Kovalev....also these same ****** clowns are making excuses for walters fighting Lomachenko

[Raonic]

For all the ggg fans
Let's do Simple Math. Ggg will Stand to make $15-20 million after its all said and done. I'll make it easier for you. Against mayweather, Canelo made $5 million vs mayweathers $40 million. That means they made a combined $45 million which came out to Canelo 11% and mayweather 89% with Canelo bringing 2 JMW belts to the table. This fight also sold 2.1 million ppv's which was the highest sold ppv at the time. Next example: Canelo vs cotto- Canelo made $5 million vs cottos $15 million for a combined $20 million. Do the math. Canelo made 25% and cotto 75%. Are you still with me? Present day Canelo vs ggg. Ggg will make $15-$20 million vs Canelos $30-$40 million. This is all depends on how good the ppv sells. Let's do the math. Let's go low end (ggg) vs high end (canelo). If Canelo makes $40 million and ggg makes $15 million that's a combined total of $55 million. Ggg makes 27% and Canelo makes 73 %. Now let's look at GGG's high end vs Canelos low end. If ggg makes $20 million and Canelo makes $30 million that's a combined $50 million. Ggg gets 40% and Canelo gets 60%. Still following?! Now let's look at both fighters high end. If ggg gets $20 million and Canelo gets $40 million that's $60 million. Ggg gets 33% and Canelo gets 67%. This is as simple as I can explain it so you and every ggg fan can understand. 8 figures does not mean 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,or 9 million. It means a guaranteed at least $10 million right of the back plus a ppv percentage. Canelo took a guaranteed $5 million for cotto and mayweather. He's offering ggg at least double that for a fight that's not guaranteed to sell 2 million ppv's

Actually, the offer was the flat $10 million based on what everyone seems to be saying and that's what I'm using to express my opinion. If GGG was offered $20 million (of out the pot), then it's probably a different story. If there's clear reports to suggest that GGG gets upside via the PPV buys, I don't have a problem with it (if it's a fair upside rate).