Andre Ward has taken 4 pay cuts to get fights made

[i got the keys]

All easy meaningless fights. When difficult fights have been on the table, Ward has a history of pricing himself out (except for Kovalev).

LMAO. He won the Super Six. Did he not price himself out then? No, he fought all the prime guys and beat them.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Ward definitely gets more criticism than he deserves. I think people largely have made him the bad guy since his promoter issues, rightly or wrongly, & from that point he's not gonna win in their opinions whatever road he takes. So things go for an exceptionally talented undefeated boxer in 2016.

Because the media loved Goossen. He treated them well. Flew them out to fights & put them up on his dime. You don't see Chavez jr or Garcia getting that type of hate for leaving Arum

[Eff Pandas]

Because the media loved Goossen. He treated them well. Flew them out to fights & put them up on his dime. You don't see Chavez jr or Garcia getting that type of hate for leaving Arum

I think the hate comes from the fans more than the media. And I think Chavez Jr does get hate for leaving Arum (& for going with Haymon), but he's not been as successful so the hate doesn't matter as much, even for the haters. Haters prefer hating on the super successful guys. Its not as much fun to beat on the dead (or at least busted up) horse.

[Motorcity Cobra]

I think the hate comes from the fans more than the media. And I think Chavez Jr does get hate for leaving Arum (& for going with Haymon), but he's not been as successful so the hate doesn't matter as much, even for the haters. Haters prefer hating on the super successful guys. Its not as much fun to beat on the dead (or at least busted up) horse.

Comes from the fans driven by what they've read in the media

[stuff jones]

Rodriguez, Smith, Barrera & Brand. Some guys do whatever it takes to get fights made. That's why they have great resumes while others turn down paydays that'll pay them 8 figures & double what they've ever been paid! But this is box, not business.

But Ward is a diva?!?!?

Lol. So glad he made those fights vs bums! what a legend!

The reason he didn't get paid is because those guys are no names.

what a lousy post.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Lol. So glad he made those fights vs bums! what a legend!

The reason he didn't get paid is because those guys are no names.

what a lousy post.

But Jacobs is a bum who's gonna get KO'd in three rds doe

[TheCell8]

lol you named a bunch of tune up fights, and guess what? GGG also took paycuts early on too.

But when has Ward ever taken a paycut to fight a top fighter like people are demanding of GGG?

I bet Kovalev Ward is 50/50 split despite Kovalev have three of the belts and both fighters have similar profiles.

[Thraxox]

This is all meaningless fights, three easy made fights vs total nobodies, yet completely ignored how Ward didn't fight Degale and Bute when the fight was offered.

[Guest]

I am so happy Andre Ward has sacrificed so much to give us fans what we want.

He is a saint and a martyr for boxing!

[Eff Pandas]

Comes from the fans driven by what they've read in the media

I'd be more of the stance commentators are more impactful on the hater fans than writers. People of strong opinions one way or the other tend to read less in my experience. That said fans are doing a stronger more irrational version of hate than I see anyone in media doing so while they might have media influence they are taking it further down the line.