The golovkin/ward paradox

[Madison Boxing]

sigh. After Ward and his camp made the decision to put in the work to commit to 175lbs, he made it absolutely clear that he hadd no intention of going back down in weight. To keep pushing that "he just couldn't make 168lbs anymore" is ridiculous.

After the time he spent out of the ring, with nearly 3 weeks to go for his return fight against Paul Smith at 172lbs, Andre Ward was already 173lbs. Only an idiot would earnestly believe that Andre Ward couldn't have shaved off 5lbs in 3 weeks if he'd had to.

just dont know why hes getting made out to be a hero for fighting in his most natural weight class, didnt he fight as a light heavy as an amateur too? Its hardly like hes fighting bigger men up there, more than holds his own physically

[Madison Boxing]

Andre Ward fought through the Super Six, took on ****ing Sakio Bika to keep busy, fought light heavyweight king Chad Dawson immediately after the tournament was over, and was set to fight Kelly Pavlik following that (before things went to ****); you add that even Ward's initial return fight was against WBA #1 rated and 24-0 Edwin Rodriguez, and the case can be made that Ward's been in solid/legit fights from since he fought Edison Miranda in 2009.

Golovkin has been knocking off cans for the vast majority of his career, and seems to be happy continuing to knock off cans; Kell Brook was legitimately seen as being Golovkin's best pro opponent, and he had to come up two full weight classes.

If what you've stated is supposedly the actual criteria for determining anything, what makes Gennady Golovkin any different from Ed "Butterbean" Esch, 'King of the 4 rounders'?

sakio bika, limited fighter who calzaghe schooled desptie not even sparring in the build up. CHad dawson, weight drained, and such a good fighter that pascal beat him and the pimp knocked him out in 1. Pavlik- lost every round to old man hopkins. Edwin rodriguez- bum city. Those sanctioning body rankings mean jack****. Pretty sure jojo dan was a number 1 welterweight challenger according to ibf lol

[HeadShots]

the problem with GGG is that Canelo pulled the biggest ***** move in boxing history by vacating his belt to duck his mandatory AGAIN. this has to be the 3rd time he ducked GGG with that belt.


Becaue Canelo said "MEXICANS DON'T FUGG AROUND!"


this basically embarassed all latinos.



so latinos have grouped with the blacks to hurl their purses against GGG.


GGG is like Trump in boxing today.


all the LGBT community are upset

[HeadShots]

Border jumpers are at a cross roads in boxing.

never in history did they have such a cowardly boxing star.


so they can either agree to their own embarassment or bury their heads in the sand like the blacks(we built the pyramids y'all) and go in full denial/hate mode.


it's one or the other. it's easier to be insane than to accept reality.

[Larry the boss]

Jesus man....we get it you love GGG and hate Ward...damn

[MPX309]

sakio bika, limited fighter who calzaghe schooled desptie not even sparring in the build up. CHad dawson, weight drained, and such a good fighter that pascal beat him and the pimp knocked him out in 1. Pavlik- lost every round to old man hopkins. Edwin rodriguez- bum city. Those sanctioning body rankings mean jack****. Pretty sure jojo dan was a number 1 welterweight challenger according to ibf lol

He fought at LHW in the olympics, and the the reason for that was because his friend was fighting at super middle also and two men from the same nation couldn't represent in the same weight class.

[Larry the boss]

Lmao. It's pretty obvious by this thread that golovkin is the most liked and ward is the most hated.

Real boxing fans wanna see the best fight the best.

Ward is doing that in 4 weeks.

The people are still waiting on gennady to do the same.

it's funny that when you question a fighters resume that makes you a hater.

What's even more funny is Americans coming to the defense of a guy from another country, but those same Americans won't even defend their countrymen.

Now go ahead and spin what I just said into me being a racist hater

simple as that

[HeadShots]

whose fault is it that Ward NO CONCESSIONS didn't want to meet GGG at 164 when he was at 168?

FIGHT WILL NEVER HAPPEN! walks away without negotiations.


whose fault is it that Canelo walked away from GGG as his mandatory 3 times?

[Larry the boss]

he didnt 'move up in weight' deliberately to chase greatness lol. he said it himself he jsut cant make 168 anymore.

Is he not fighting Kovalev in 4 weeks?? is this not his 3rd division he has fought in?

[Larry the boss]

hows it logical for people for his fans to rate him p4p number 1 having not fought a fighter with a pulse in 5 years?

how is it logical for GGG to be p4p top when he hasnt faced anyone worth a damn in his entire career?